Reply to: Heather: I've got secret tapes of violent rows with Macca

[TwoWolves]

This is what happens when you marry white-trash.

Silly old Macca; "there's no fool like an old fool" as they say.

[lfc69]

<Quote>...who probably anticipated the marriage wouldn't last even as she walked up the aisle...</Quote>

hopped, surely

[Generalist]

The message was apparently left by McCartney following a furious row with Miss Mills which prompted the former model to flee to India.

Is there no end to this offshoring?

[Ardesco]

So she was recording and videoing all of the arguments just so she had lots of evidence for the divorce case.....

Give the gold digging harlot a big slap and send her on her way with nothing is what I say, I agree that macca is up his own ass and really gets on my t*ts, but even with him being a total ass I don't belive that she should get anything for what she has done.

[Lucifer Box]

Who gives a tulip?

Do you lot all read "Hello" in your coffee breaks or something?

[mcquiggd]

Didn't know that...

She actually reminds me a bit of 'lady di'... milking the press, the work for charity, the sleeping around... yet always looking for sympathy. The interviews with her were quite sickening with all the measured acting.

[DirtyOldMan]

Why she has stooped to this, I cannot understand.....

It's because she's a greedy female. Hell hath no fury etc .....

And her real name's not Heather anyway, it's Peggy

[AtW]

The law still recognises that women 'sacrifice' their lives for their husbands by giving up what could otherwise be a successful independent life by making it on their own not tied down with children.

£1 mln is a good cap - most women or even men would not earn that much over period of their life, well, they will but never feel like it.

Divorce rules in the UK totally shafted - why should there be 50-50 split even if most of the money were earned well before marriage? This is especially true in case of rich people who may have earned bulk of money way before marriage.

And to add insult to injury prenup agreements don't work here either - it's like middle ages.

She may lose a lot by divorce, but that's her problem - maybe she should have cooked without complaints and do other things, if that's too much for her, than fair enough - she made her choice and money should not even come into the arguement.

[mcquiggd]

The point is, it is not 'her child', "it" is their child... and I cannot see him, based on previous behaviour, ever leaving them wanting.

This is what Fathers for Justice campaign about - the view that a woman, seemingly no matter how she behaves, is naturally the preferred parent, and that the man has obligations, but not rights.

As for her career - I guess entertaining Arab Princes had to go when she got married. Not unreasonable really.

It is pretty obvious she would have walked away a millionairess without saying a word, and just citing 'irreconcilable differences', and remained relatively 'unscathed'. Why she has stooped to this, I cannot understand, as she will forever be known as the 'slappa who did macca' to estimable Sun readers.

The best outcome would be to just pay her a year of her going rate as a 'party girl', make sure her and the child have a house, the child has a good education, and is made to feel part of the larger family without any stigma attached. I feel sorry for the kid.

[Denny]

Yes, most likely - but this does not mean she should get even £1 mln of his money. I never liked Paul, but the law should put an end to gold digging - everyone keeps their own money, and £1 mln cap on any extra payments: if the wife does not like this, then she should get a job and see how long it takes to actually make a mil, once she achieves that an extra £1 mln should be made available to her.

It's not as simple as that though. The law still recognises that women 'sacrifice' their lives for their husbands by giving up what could otherwise be a successful independent life by making it on their own not tied down with children. Wives also take on the status of their husband. Males, however, are viewed as continuing on as before after they marry - onwards and upwards - with the additional benefit of a helpmate in tow to cook the dinner after his hard day at the office, even after children come along. This so called natural order of things is still not the case with successful career women though, and very few men, even in this enlightened and liberated age, are prepared to be househusbands and full time child carers in the way that it is still deemed 'natural' and proper for women to be.

Even though the above scenario is not the case with Macca and Mills, because Macca made his fortune long before Mills came along, the concept of marriage is still about 'bestowing your worldly goods' as well so everything becomes shared in principle and becomes 'their's' not his - a view Macca must have believed too as he went into the relationship whith romantic notions of them both enjoying everlasting happinness and, of course, no pre-nup in place. There's also the added complication of his status - which is enormous as he has a title and high social standing which Heather would have to give up after the divorce. Heather also gave him another child. Therefore, he should take some responsibility and blame for the situation he's in now and expect to pay for all of these things.

I agree though, the idea that she should could get a huge multi-million fortune is disproportionate to what she has put into the marriage but it's not just about that - it's about what she loses by divorcing him. In this case - money and high social status and a title to boot. That's worth buckets.

The kid also needs providing for as he grows and if she gains full custody and if Paul is such a bastard she is entitled to be compensated for the lifestyle she can no longer expect being married to him in better circumstances that reflected the vows he took to care, keep and cherish her forever.

I would say about 10m and a decent house for her feels about right as she could make a huge fortune flogging a book about their relationship and still benefit from her past association from him as his wife - that could make her millions too. Not bad work if you can get it. What she won't ever get, though, is self respect and recognition for her own achievements that are somehow not tied to her association with him.

10m is enough to give herself and her child a secure future until he is grown, compensation for the lifestyle she's no longer able to have plus financial independence for herself. The kid would obviously get a lot more in the long run by benefitting from his inheritance and a trust fund set up in the meantime.

However, I suspect she will get more .....much, much, more.

[cojak]

'Poof' goes another million - she's got crap advisors. There's no way she can screw him for more money (by agreeing to a confidentiality clause) when all of this is splashed in the papers...

[AtW]

I equally believe that Paul McCartney is an obsessive, traditionalist bastard of the highest order.

Yes, most likely - but this does not mean she should get even £1 mln of his money. I never liked Paul, but the law should put an end to gold digging - everyone keeps their own money, and £1 mln cap on any extra payments: if the wife does not like this, then she should get a job and see how long it takes to actually make a mil, once she achieves that an extra £1 mln should be made available to her.

[Denny]

Although I think Heather Mills is a scheming, manipulative money grabbing gold digger with a dubious past who probably anticipated the marriage wouldn't last even as she walked up the aisle, I equally believe that Paul McCartney is an obsessive, traditionalist bastard of the highest order. At least that's the way he comes across to me. I also suspect he's as tight as a duck's backside and meanspirited with it, and probably gave Heather some sort of degrading 'dress allowance' or something. I can imagine him on the internet comparing the prices of various brands of tights for what he would need to pay for half a packet of stockings.

What's all this about her cooking the dinner? Couldn't he afford to fork out for a housekeeper? What was all that about rowing over a near empty bleach bottle she threw out. I rest my case. Linda was clever - at least she managed to generate her own brand of tasteless veggie burgers to keep her in stockings.

[ViolentCheese]

I am suprised Muslims aren't being blamed for this as well.

[mcquiggd]

All sounds like she is delusional, or it's her legal team / pr desperately trying to take the sting out of the backlash against the leaked court papers, and it sounds like a pretty amateurish attempt, at that.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the only tapes that surface around the time of the court case are dodgy ones of her from her younger days.