Put(a)in!

[AtW]

People will never value something that was given them for free - they have to fight for it and die, and even so some centuries later they may become complacent and forget the price that was paid for freedoms they take for granted.

[andy]

Dubya is stupid, and there is counterweight in form of US Courts, and big opposition party. Putin on the other hand is very smart, had good training in the past suitable for evil person, and there is no opposition in the country, all courts do what he would say etc.

sounds like a warlord
will democracy work in Russia or its doomed ?

[AtW]

Dubya is stupid, and there is counterweight in form of US Courts, and big opposition party. Putin on the other hand is very smart, had good training in the past suitable for evil person, and there is no opposition in the country, all courts do what he would say etc.

[expat]

Not even Dubya would say that

He doesn't have to say anything, a gesture is worth a thousand words. Did you see Angela Merkel's face when Old Smirkie pawed her? It said a lot about her opinion of him as a man. Don't think you're in there, George.

[AtW]

reading between the lines suggest he has raped less than 10 women.

He raped the whole country and worst of all both sides seem to like it.

[andy]

He said the following (translation is mine and it is pretty accurate):

"Send regards to your President! He turned out to be a real stud! 10 women raped! I never expected that of him! He sure suprised us all. We all envy him!"

Not even Dubya would say that: you don't hear much that stuff from Putin because he is naturally careful to say a word, and no TV in Russia would even mention that accident, most newspapers won't either: it is self-censorships are people are afraid for their jobs, and some for their lifes.

reading between the lines suggest he has raped less than 10 women.

[AtW]

He said the following (translation is mine and it is pretty accurate):

"Send regards to your President! He turned out to be a real stud! 10 women raped! I never expected that of him! He sure suprised us all. We all envy him!"

Not even Dubya would say that: you don't hear much that stuff from Putin because he is naturally careful to say a word, and no TV in Russia would even mention that accident, most newspapers won't either: it is self-censorships are people are afraid for their jobs, and some for their lifes.

[expat]

Putin makes a joke that is overheard ("doing a Dubya" tm) about the Israeli president raping 10 women.

But, "Russian is a very complicated language, sometimes it is very sensitive from the point of view of phrasing".

OK, what did he really say, then?