Reply to: No deal

[Chuck]

Riiiiight.

Click on the Net Contribution button if you doubt me.

[seanraaron]

The EU wants/needs our money.

Riiiiight.

[Chuck]

I don't understand why this is assumed. Surely there are enough other problems to deal with that getting Britain to reconsider wouldn't be that high on the list? It's not like we're helping with the eurozone crisis or the migrant crisis...

The EU wants/needs our money.

[seanraaron]

IMO its like discussing a rate rise. Unless you have another gig its a waste of time.

UK should vote to get out. EU will then offer more and we will be asked to vote again. Rinse and repeat.....

I don't understand why this is assumed. Surely there are enough other problems to deal with that getting Britain to reconsider wouldn't be that high on the list? It's not like we're helping with the eurozone crisis or the migrant crisis...

[mudskipper]

FTFY

Winners all round. What's not to like?

[NickFitz]

Cameron will come home saying what a fantastic deal he's got, and the others will also go home saying what a fantastic deal they've got.

FTFY

[BrilloPad]

You have to actually discuss reform to have a hope of getting reform.

IMO its like discussing a rate rise. Unless you have another gig its a waste of time.

UK should vote to get out. EU will then offer more and we will be asked to vote again. Rinse and repeat.....

[seanraaron]

We should take what is good about the EU and build on it what we should not do is to allow it to gather more power and control.

Except that instead of going to other member states and having a frank and fruitful dialogue about reform, our glorious leader is going with a list of unilateral demands to play to an in/out referendum back home.

You have to actually discuss reform to have a hope of getting reform.

[DodgyAgent]

EU has been a success as no major war in Europe since 1945. Nothing to do with all those nukes.

NATO is the main reason there has been no war in Europe. Certainly the bonding of economies and trade has created considerable interdependence between EU states. It would howver be stupid to endorse the EU just because of this when it has failed to manage the EURO or migration the two big issues of the day. The interdependence of economies is a very good thing but if this means handing more power to the EU then it will become a controlling totalitarian state just like the Soviet Union.

We should take what is good about the EU and build on it what we should not do is to allow it to gather more power and control.

[PurpleGorilla]

We couldn't have done worse sending Noel Edmonds instead of Hameron

Send the blond tw@t

[Chuck]

So far the Bankers offer seem to have been zero every time.

It's all fluff. They are playing to their home audiences, making them seem tough against the anglo saxon trouble maker. At the "last minute" they will all compromise. Everyone will be a winner and Cameron will come home saying what a fantastic deal he's got.

Some minor rules will be amended. The EU will be able to veto them. Nothing will change.

[BrilloPad]

We couldn't have done worse sending Noel Edmonds instead of Hameron

So far the Bankers offer seem to have been zero every time.

[MicrosoftBob]

We couldn't have done worse sending Noel Edmonds instead of Hameron

[BrilloPad]

The people of former Yugoslavia might disagree with that.

It has not involved UK, France, Spain, Germany or Prussia. So minor.

That one was caused by Tito dying. The second Tito that is. They replaced the first one.....

[Chuck]

Yes, thank god the British have had nukes to keep Western Europe free from the scourge of war. No doubt we can start demanding tribute post-Brexit in exchange for not nuking the EU...

Not a bad idea that, the trouble is that it's such a lovely place. The people and the countries are superb. It's just the political institutions that are the problem.