Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostThat's a bit harsh, Spontaneous may be a plodding, pedantic, pettifogging, tedious, self-regarding, point-missing,disingenous,nitpicking,needlesly offensive, boorish, vapid, juvenile sophist.
But I wouldn't call him a twat.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostJust call him a "twat"
But I wouldn't call him a twat.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostJust call him a "twat"
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostI really don't understand how so many people can't tell the difference between causation & correlation.
1) Desire to cause offence -> call someone something insulting -> offence probably taken.
2) Desire to accuse -> accuse someone accurately -> no offence taken.
3) Desire to accuse -> accuse someone inaccurately -> potential for offence to be taken.
The fact that points 1 and 3 both involve the potential to cause offence does not make accusations & insults synonymous.
You should be able to see the paradox in telling a lie to insult someone by accusing them of being a liar ?
So, as I said, not a very good insult. Much better for making an accusation.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostWell, I'm just a dopey moron but it seems to me that the 'red inside' bit is asserting that the 'watermelon' in question is accused of using environmentalism to conceal an anti-capitalist agenda.
Dishonest is not something that people are 'happy to be'.
1) Desire to cause offence -> call someone something insulting -> offence probably taken.
2) Desire to accuse -> accuse someone accurately -> no offence taken.
3) Desire to accuse -> accuse someone inaccurately -> potential for offence to be taken.
The fact that points 1 and 3 both involve the potential to cause offence does not make accusations & insults synonymous.
You should be able to see the paradox in telling a lie to insult someone by accusing them of being a liar ?
So, as I said, not a very good insult. Much better for making an accusation.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostWell, I'm just a dopey moron but it seems to me that the 'red inside' bit is asserting that the 'watermelon' in question is accused of using environmentalism to conceal an anti-capitalist agenda.
Dishonest is not something that people are 'happy to be'.
I know my IQ is negligible by comparison to yours so it cannot possibly the case that you know all this perfectly well, and are indulging in disingenuousness and sterile semantics. It must be the Socratic Method. Or something.
The jibe may have had a grain of truth once, however Governments of all colours signed up to the Paris treaty, and many of the organisations supporting action are true blue capitalists, seeing the risk to their future profits.
Climate change & climate protection | Munich Re
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostSo... you mean it's not an insult then? It's a shorthanded misrepresentation of motives?
Dishonest is not something that people are 'happy to be'.
I know my IQ is negligible by comparison to yours so it cannot possibly the case that you know all this perfectly well, and are indulging in disingenuousness and sterile semantics. It must be the Socratic Method. Or something.
The jibe may have had a grain of truth once, however Governments of all colours signed up to the Paris treaty, and many of the organisations supporting action are true blue capitalists, seeing the risk to their future profits.
Climate change & climate protection | Munich Re
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Originally posted by original PM View PostThing is the only viable long term solution is to invest in space.
The human population will keep growing and that alone means that there will be an increasing impact on the planet regardless of what we do.
If we had decided this back in the 80's instead of focusing on trying to 'fix' earth we would be a lot closer to achieving that goal.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostMore like a convenient solution to treating excrement.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostBS. The term is used by those on the libertarian right to misrepresent the motives of environmentalists
So... you mean it's not an insult then? It's a shorthanded misrepresentation of motives?
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Thing is the only viable long term solution is to invest in space.
The human population will keep growing and that alone means that there will be an increasing impact on the planet regardless of what we do.
If we had decided this back in the 80's instead of focusing on trying to 'fix' earth we would be a lot closer to achieving that goal.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostThere is absolutely no scientific proof that sticks and stones will break my bones.
pj comes up with a hypothesis that is both falsifiable and replicable. many times
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