Reply to: Burqa banned in Swiss Canton of Ticino (Tessin)

[BrilloPad]

10'000 Franc fine (~£6500) if worn in a restaurant, shop or public building. Federal government has ruled that it isn't unconstitutional.

I don't think wearing the Burqa is a matter of freedom of choice, rather the flaunting of misogyny and a lack of freedom of choice. So I approve. No problem with headscarves though, 'cos I'm from oop North.

These Tessin mods and admin going round imposing arbitrary bans with no come back. I suppose you could complain and get back a "our word is final. if you don't like it go elsewhere" message.

I support your struggle brother.....

[BrilloPad]

fook me

how ugly must the missus have to be that you have to tell her to wear full face covering and not just the one which shows the eyes but covers the beard?

unbelievable

Is it NLYUK you mean?

Though she has asked for NLUK to be similarly attired....

[BrilloPad]

baby bp shouted at the top of his voice at centreparcs "look over there at that Ninja".

Dubai was a fun trip.....

[original PM]

fook me

how ugly must the missus have to be that you have to tell her to wear full face covering and not just the one which shows the eyes but covers the beard?

unbelievable

[VectraMan]

I have to remove my crash helmet / balaclava every time I pay for fuel. By the same token, burqa / niqab wearers should be asked to do the same shouldn't they?

It's interesting that people think if your face is covered you must be up to no good. Like we can identify bank robbers, petrol thieves or terrorists by the look in their eyes.

[northernladuk]

Yep sorry doing multiple things at once again.

My point made perfectly

[SueEllen]

Isn't that the hijab?

Yep sorry doing multiple things at once again.

[LucidDementia]

A niqab just covers your hair and you should clearly be able to see the woman's face.

Isn't that the hijab?

[Gumbo Robot]

A niqab just covers your hair and you should clearly be able to see the woman's face. It's no different from an orthodox Jew wearing a hat/scarf or some women in Christian sects wearing scarves.

The burqa is different and while it's common sense to cover your face in a sand storm there is no reason to do so in most of the world. Also the aim of wearing one is to be modest but standing out isn't modest.

Niqab doesn't show the face - just the eyes.

[SueEllen]

I have to remove my crash helmet / balaclava every time I pay for fuel. By the same token, burqa / niqab wearers should be asked to do the same shouldn't they?

I haven't read up on this particular story though so I don't know if the argument is about Muslim headgear being bad because it obscures your features ( and maybe your intentions too?) or whether the ban is on the basis of such garments being divisive.

The problem with banning something because it's divisive is a double edge sword of course. Under those rules, what's to stop them banning people from wearing tee shirts showing the confederate flag, for example?

Because some SJW somewhere would argue that wearing such a thing is tantamount to saying you like slavery and it's not hard to imagine how that would all pan out.

A niqab just covers your hair and you should clearly be able to see the woman's face. It's no different from an orthodox Jew wearing a hat/scarf or some women in Christian sects wearing scarves.

The burqa is different and while it's common sense to cover your face in a sand storm there is no reason to do so in most of the world. Also the aim of wearing one is to be modest but standing out isn't modest.

[Gumbo Robot]

It's not splitting hairs at all. It's the fundamental problem. People say ban the Burqa because the face should be shown and are talking about completely the wrong thing. Kinda ruins the argument and makes them look like a tit. If you are going to introduce some contentious rules at least get the right name for it. I can count the number of Burqas I've ever seen on one hand... The niqab however...

I have to remove my crash helmet / balaclava every time I pay for fuel. By the same token, burqa / niqab wearers should be asked to do the same shouldn't they?

I haven't read up on this particular story though so I don't know if the argument is about Muslim headgear being bad because it obscures your features ( and maybe your intentions too?) or whether the ban is on the basis of such garments being divisive.

The problem with banning something because it's divisive is a double edge sword of course. Under those rules, what's to stop them banning people from wearing tee shirts showing the confederate flag, for example?

Because some SJW somewhere would argue that wearing such a thing is tantamount to saying you like slavery and it's not hard to imagine how that would all pan out.

[FatLazyContractor]

I did see a burqini once though. In Torquay

Did you waterboard her, just to be sure?

[DodgyAgent]

Well they can choose to take these off - if the are prepared for any consequences...

They can choose to fight against being disfigured if they are prepared to take the consequences

[Gumbo Robot]

Rarer granted but surprises me. Where do you live?

Somerset.

I've seen the niqab in London but I went to uni in Newcastle & lived in the West End which has a lot of Muslims. Never saw a niqab/burqa once. That was 20 years ago. I'm guessing the ones in headgear are the younger generation who identlfy with Islam more strongly than their parents did. They'd have been kids when I was up there.

I did see a burqini once though. In Torquay

[Bee]

It's not splitting hairs at all. It's the fundamental problem. People say ban the Burqa because the face should be shown and are talking about completely the wrong thing. Kinda ruins the argument and makes them look like a tit. If you are going to introduce some contentious rules at least get the right name for it. I can count the number of Burqas I've ever seen on one hand... The niqab however...

Yes I agree, it's a fundamental problem.
Following the example of Iran, women started to dress like western countries, after the Talibans era, burqa was required again.

It's like domestic violence when a women got a black eye, "I fell from de stairs".