Reply to: Europe In or Out.. you decide

[Troll]

What about a "yes, but with reforms" option

Splitter!

[mudskipper]

What about a "yes, but with reforms" option

[LucidDementia]

Sorry I meant to say "you are a saddo swivel eyed loon"

Yes, as I choose to know what's going on, I'm a saddo.

No wonder we're so far up the creek.

Why don't you quote the relevant sections for us, since you clearly have read it already.

While I don't want to get into a mammoth debate on the subject, Article 17 sums it up fairly well.

Declaration concerning primacy

The Conference recalls that, in accordance with well settled case law of the Court of Justice of the
European Union, the Treaties and the law adopted by the Union on the basis of the Treaties have
primacy over the law of Member States, under the conditions laid down by the said case law.

Translation: Our new laws trump your old ones. All your base are belong to us.

[d000hg]

Just read the Lisbon Treaty.

Why don't you quote the relevant sections for us, since you clearly have read it already.

[DodgyAgent]

Am I a swivel-eyed loon?

Just read the Lisbon Treaty.

Sorry I meant to say "you are a saddo swivel eyed loon"

[LucidDementia]

I want the UK out of the EU just as much as anyone but I do not buy the exaggerated claims of the "swivel eyed loons" like UKIP.

Am I a swivel-eyed loon?

Just read the Lisbon Treaty.

[DodgyAgent]

1. You are an ENTP aren't you?

2. This is very trollish

3. Give over, I mean I know you're an agent, but you can't be that daft surely?

I want the UK out of the EU just as much as anyone but I do not buy the exaggerated claims of the "swivel eyed loons" like UKIP.

[d000hg]

It's most convenient for the government to be able to say "sorry, it's the EU making us do it" that's for sure.

[LucidDementia]

In what way has the UK handed over power to the EU? (I cannot believe I am taking this side of the argument )

1. You are an ENTP aren't you?

2. This is very trollish

3. Give over, I mean I know you're an agent, but you can't be that daft surely?

[DodgyAgent]

How about handing over the country to a foreign power?

In what way has the UK handed over power to the EU? (I cannot believe I am taking this side of the argument )

[LucidDementia]

How exactly do you define giving aid Give Aid, Comfort and Support to a Foreign Power , Persons or
Organisation wishing to subvert the Sovereignty of the Country

How about handing over the country to a foreign power?

[d000hg]

Like most BBC / Govt polls it appears to be based on a very small sample ... extrapolated to represent the 1.4 million IT freelancers

Yes, this is what a poll does.

You think CUK is a representative sample?

He thinks it's representative of people who will give the answer he wants to hear.

[EternalOptimist]

Both sides have legitimate arguments

really ?
John Major thought the other side had illegitimate arguments
john majors b@stards

[DodgyAgent]

Really? Treason is pretty clear cut:

Under the Treason & Felony Act 1848 it is a treasonable offence to:

Give Aid, Comfort and Support to a Foreign Power , Persons or
Organisation wishing to subvert the Sovereignty of the Country

How exactly do you define giving aid Give Aid, Comfort and Support to a Foreign Power , Persons or
Organisation wishing to subvert the Sovereignty of the Country

[BrilloPad]

In theory we will try to "shake it all about" - the it being the terms under which UK stays in the EU.

No-one stands in the way of the EU. Syzira got elected the Greece to tell the EU where to go. EU said no. Syzira held a poll asking if Greece should accept EU conditions. People said no. One week later Syzira accepted the EU conditions against the will of the people.

I will vote for leaving the EU. But I expect my vote to not be counted as I am voting the wrong way.