Anyone know what this legislation is?

[Mordac]

Agency has responded (I paraphrase)

"Er, well, its not ACTUALLY a legal requirement, but some of our clients are making it part of their SLA with us, and we think it will be a legal requirement soon, so if you've no objection, old chap"

I don't want to p!ss them off, but I don't feel like giving copies of my ID documents to someone who's not entitled to ask for them

Those are not good enough reasons.
Remind them of their obligations under the DPA - unless specifically licensed to hold this information by the DTI, it is illegal for them to do so.

[Lucifer Box]

Just be firm and say no, you will provide them with a letter on company headed stationary signed by the MD confirming that you are entitled to work in the UK. No agency will throw away a commission over this.

[hattra]

Agency response

Agency has responded (I paraphrase)

"Er, well, its not ACTUALLY a legal requirement, but some of our clients are making it part of their SLA with us, and we think it will be a legal requirement soon, so if you've no objection, old chap"

I don't want to p!ss them off, but I don't feel like giving copies of my ID documents to someone who's not entitled to ask for them

[Mordac]

Sorry, it's an old link. I'll try and dig out a copy I downloaded and post them somewhere. Basically, if it's Agency regs, and you are employed through a brolly or limited, explain to the agency you don't need to send them this stuff.

[triboix]

The whole point of the opt-out is that agencies wouldn't have to do this stuff. If you are engaged through a legal entity (e.g brolly or limited) you don't have to supply them with proof of ID.
These regs are designed for employed temps, not B2B engagements.

Go and look them up. http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/agency/newregs.htm

Hi Mordac,

Your link is dead... But what you say is interesting. I would be very happy to avoid sending copies of my passport to agencies. Thanks for the tip!

[Paddy]

The DTI web page or document you are looking for has not been found

[malvolio]

If it's DTI proof of identity,then you ought to be able to get away with a letter from YourCo saying all your staff are allowed to work here and YourCo will pay the fines if they are not. BAsically they are just closing down the audit trail, since you are already working through them.

It may be Money Laudering regs, of course, where different rules apply and it is possible they will need to see a copy of the last page of your passport (not a full colour one), so it's not worth getting worked up about it.

Find out which they are talking about ( "Dear pimp - sorry but are you referring to...?"). It is a measure of their stupiditity that they haven't made it clear in the first place

[Mordac]

The whole point of the opt-out is that agencies wouldn't have to do this stuff. If you are engaged through a legal entity (e.g brolly or limited) you don't have to supply them with proof of ID.
These regs are designed for employed temps, not B2B engagements.

Go and look them up. http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/agency/newregs.htm

[Paddy]

If you are opted out it doesn't apply. If you are through a brolly, you may need to supply this stuff to the brolly, but if you are ltd then a letter from a director (which is probably going to be you anyway) is enough. Agencies are so dense sometimes, it should amaze me but somehow it doesn't.

I'ts got nothing to do with opt in or out. It's anybody going via an agency.

[Mordac]

If you are opted out it doesn't apply. If you are through a brolly, you may need to supply this stuff to the brolly, but if you are ltd then a letter from a director (which is probably going to be you anyway) is enough. Agencies are so dense sometimes, it should amaze me but somehow it doesn't.

[Paddy]

We require proof of identity, ie a copy of a 10 year passport, full driving licence or birth certificate, a recent utility bill to verify your address.

The “ie” should be “eg” (example not specifically) . The above items are not required legally. The legislation is a recent employment act (2002?) In which employment agencies must obtain proof of identity for all person engaged in work in the UK. This is the same law that has been in the news when agencies and employers report dodgy identities there is nobody in the government departs to follow up the reports. The result is the whole exercise is useless and even causes problems as there are now millions of copies of people identities not being kept secure.

[zathras]

Just received from my pimp

Subject: Legislation requirements


"Afternoon xxxx,

Apologies for this email but as one of our current contractors, we need to ensure that we have the correct documentation in place for you in order to comply with all relevant legislation.

In order to comply with the spirit of the legislation we would like you to provide proof of identity and address as detailed below:

We require proof of identity, ie a copy of a 10 year passport, full driving licence or birth certificate, a recent utility bill to verify your address.

If however you believe you have already sent these items to us, can you let me know and I can chase internally.

I appreciate the majority of this wont be with you at this moment in time, seeing as you stay down during the week, however if it is at all possible to included it with your Timesheet next week I would be most grateful.

Thanks"

Anyone got any idea what thisis about - I'm contracted out of the agency stuff, so they shouldn't need it for that.

tell them that. That is what I do but the problem here is the DTI (which has not read the website of the Office of Public Sector Information which tells you it is illegal to copy the Passport and anyway it is not valid as a form of identity).

The DTI requires that everyone is identified and are totally confused when you tell them you do not want to give the information

[hattra]

Just received from my pimp

Subject: Legislation requirements


"Afternoon xxxx,

Apologies for this email but as one of our current contractors, we need to ensure that we have the correct documentation in place for you in order to comply with all relevant legislation.

In order to comply with the spirit of the legislation we would like you to provide proof of identity and address as detailed below:

We require proof of identity, ie a copy of a 10 year passport, full driving licence or birth certificate, a recent utility bill to verify your address.

If however you believe you have already sent these items to us, can you let me know and I can chase internally.

I appreciate the majority of this wont be with you at this moment in time, seeing as you stay down during the week, however if it is at all possible to included it with your Timesheet next week I would be most grateful.

Thanks"

Anyone got any idea what thisis about - I'm contracted out of the agency stuff, so they shouldn't need it for that.