Reply to: I'm going to take you to a gay bar.

[AtW]

But things change, even Russia:-)

I am no longer sure that that will be the case even when next generation of Russians grow up - it is becoming a lot worse now than it was 5 years ago because the power that be there use updated but still USSR style indoctrination as means of holding power to themselves.

I think ASB is now doing contract work in Moscow, will be interesting to see his views even though what he does can't be classed as proper doing business, no offence.

[MarillionFan]

"I would have done that myself but I have no talent" - AtW

Never a truer word spoken.

MF in 'Cutting quotes like the tabloid press' Mode.

[sunnysan]

Business in Russia

Yep, that seems to be good advice from what I have seen.

But things change, even Russia:-)

[Dundeegeorge]

On the language thing

it's your fault Alexei, being a legal immigrant.
If you had just sneaked into the country, you would have been provided with an interpreter at no cost.

[AtW]

My sincere advice to you or anyone who wishes to do business with Russians who actually live and work in Russia - don't. I know I would not.

Go there as a tourist, some places are nice, safety seems reasonable, though be very careful. Consider taking Russian wife - though be very careful. But don't do business - some short term contracting with presense there may be okay, though I would not do it.

Learn Chinese - this will put you at great advantage in the future. I would have done that myself but I have no talent for foreign languages.

[sunnysan]

Why

Sometimes I am too distracted to see what I type, this is when stupid grammer errors happen.

Why do you want to learn Russian anyway? You are better off learning Chinese - in a labour camp you will work as interpreter and get extra ration of food that will bring new meaning to word "junk".

Family reasons as well as I think it will probably be quite a good business language to have in the future.

[stackpole]

and spend all of your money. At a gay bar, gay bar.

I've got something to put in you.

[Ardesco]

He's trying to get a discount on a fit russian bride by bartering in her native language.

(probably rubbish but i'm bored at work hence the crap coming out of me today)

[AtW]

Sometimes I am too distracted to see what I type, this is when stupid grammer errors happen.

Why do you want to learn Russian anyway? You are better off learning Chinese - in a labour camp you will work as interpreter and get extra ration of food that will bring new meaning to word "junk".

[sunnysan]

Atw

Well,

I think if ATW is who he says he is ie native Russian, that his written english and understanding of English idomatic expressions is pretty good.

I am in the process of learning Russian and it is a bloody difficult language and I think from being Russian speaking to learning native english beyond "One beer barman" or "I need eat now" is quite challenging to a native russian speaker

A lot of East Europeans I have met have decent spoken English but are not great on the written side so there I would commend ATW for his command of written English, bearing in mind that being Russian and having russian as a mother tongue means that you automatically construct sentences in a totally different way, and thats not even going into idioms and colloqialisms

To take one example from one of our resident Rooskis post where he says "In honest " , which I assume is supposed to be "In all honesty" you can see the absolute command of english colloquialisms is not quite there, but IMHO, impressive.

If you go and look at english.pravda.ru you will be entertained by the use of expressions which are used out of context .

Seriously ATW, I will consider it "Mission Accomplished", if one day I can write Russian as well as you write English.

My 5 cents worth anyway and take it from when it came as "I am Saark Efrikan , end aah daant speak englush very gud anyway."

Interesting though is the in my second language langauge Afrikaans, owing to its European origins there are quite a few similarities with words in in Russian although the grammar is far less complex

(Excuse my transliteration)
ie Eng, Afr. Russ
Chemist,Apteek,Apteka
Frame,Raam,Ramka
Buy,Koop,Kopit

etc etc
Anyway, I have far to little to do today:-)

[DaveB]

MF - in a few weeks I should have whole 4 bedroom house to myself. Kitchen is separate albeit smaller than I'd like. In honest it is a sh1t house, much worse than the one I was before (company-owner decided to sell it, it is still with sign "sale" 5 months later), but this house has got a garage, and it would be great for history books - SKA made in a garage, just like Steve Jobs and Woz, H & P, Google founders and others.

You will also be in history books - as the owner of the worst tat shop in the UK

There are times when trying to read some of AtW's posts just give me a head ache. The "almost but not quite" grammer, the odd phraseology, the bizzare content. None of it on it's own would be a problem but all at once and I start wondering if I'm still reading English, or some bizarre dialect derived from Papa Lazerou. cf. WageSlaves Signature.

No offense Alexi, my Russian is none existant and English is a bloody odd language at the best of times, but you do seem to have a somewhat carefree approach to the language

[MarillionFan]

AtW. It doesnt matter if it has 4 bedrooms or 8. A squat is a squat.

[AtW]

MF - in a few weeks I should have whole 4 bedroom house to myself. Kitchen is separate albeit smaller than I'd like. In honest it is a sh1t house, much worse than the one I was before (company-owner decided to sell it, it is still with sign "sale" 5 months later), but this house has got a garage, and it would be great for history books - SKA made in a garage, just like Steve Jobs and Woz, H & P, Google founders and others.

You will also be in history books - as the owner of the worst tat shop in the UK

[MarillionFan]

My missus counts posting on CUK as work. If I can convert one heathen to our religion then this is a job well done.

Chico

[sunnysan]

Passprt

Is your missus not going to kill you if you dont have your passport when she gets back? Just to show that you made an effort?

So she has been on holiday alone with the kid while you have been sitting at home?

I would not want to be you when family arrives home:-)

I reckon you are in for a hard time