Window 10

[stek]

Window 10

I installed latest version of OS X "El Capitain" on my main machine last week, public beta 2. It works just as well as the official stable version. Lovely and 3 months ahead of official release to have those non existent bugs errr fixed.

Thats from my perspective, im sure there are some issues with other users somewhere.

I couldn't install Sametime and as I need it for work I had to go back to Yosemite.

Can't burn from Disk Utility on El Capitan yet....

[xoggoth]

Hmmm. Might put it on my 2nd PC that I rarely use but looks like I wont be installing it on this one, not yet anyway.

As an old fashioned old fart I don't like all this fancy gadget stuff. Like on Android which has some good apps but there is no uniformity, everything works in a different way. I like stuff that has menus with "File" at top left etc.

[chef]

I installed latest version of OS X "El Capitain" on my main machine last week, public beta 2. It works just as well as the official stable version. Lovely and 3 months ahead of official release to have those non existent bugs errr fixed.

Thats from my perspective, im sure there are some issues with other users somewhere.

[oliverson]

Totally agreed. I was on the insider program for a while but decided to leave and downgrade back to 8.1 after frustration.

It started of as an extremely solid release, working keyboard shortcuts for command line etc. Then they totally lost their plot and started chasing developers.

Like we will automatically recommend new apps in the start menu and in your lock screen based on your usage. WTF. By default, we will install all pile of crap from amazon, netflix which we think are good for your use. More craps like this.

Briefly, they worked with no deadline then committed to a random day (July 29th) just because some guy in marketing thought thats a nice date. The fact that they had to release 1GB worth of bug fixes on the first day goes to show the quality.

and the inbuilt 'Apps'. Call me old old fashioned but applications running on a desktop computer should be proper applications not slimmed down bland featureless rubbish. The mail application didn't work, there was no logic to setting up a mail account. All I was left with was a bland couple of rectangles on the screen. As for the XBox app, a blank green screen with no progress indicator for about 30 seconds before I saw content. The Windows App Store is like a Russian supermarket in the 80's - empty.

[pangeakiller]

Totally agreed. I was on the insider program for a while but decided to leave and downgrade back to 8.1 after frustration.

It started of as an extremely solid release, working keyboard shortcuts for command line etc. Then they totally lost their plot and started chasing developers.

Like we will automatically recommend new apps in the start menu and in your lock screen based on your usage. WTF. By default, we will install all pile of crap from amazon, netflix which we think are good for your use. More craps like this.

Briefly, they worked with no deadline then committed to a random day (July 29th) just because some guy in marketing thought thats a nice date. The fact that they had to release 1GB worth of bug fixes on the first day goes to show the quality.

[oliverson]

still seething about it.

Another annoyance from Windows 8 carries forward. 'All Programs' (or Windows 8's Start Screen) has literally ALL the programs lumped together. For example, every constituent part of Visual Studio is listed. There's no grouping by parent folder, so what you have is one big long alphabetical list of applications/sub-components. Same story when you're trying to remove a program. Can you imagine going into a restaurant and all the starters, main courses, deserts, wine list and other drinks are all listed alphabetically with no grouping? How long would it take you to order a meal FFS?

[MicrosoftBob]

By Unix do you mean proper AIX on POWER, or Solaris on SPARC, or maybe HP-UX on RISC-PA or Integrity? Or do you mean Linsux on shiity PC or FreeBSD on ARM or some crap?

Or BSD with a shiny Apple GUI and microkernel

[oliverson]

By Unix do you mean proper AIX on POWER, or Solaris on SPARC, or maybe HP-UX on RISC-PA or Integrity? Or do you mean Linsux on shiity PC or FreeBSD on ARM or some crap?

'Proper UNIX'

Dynix/PTX (I was at Sequent for over a year back in the 90's)
HP-UX
Solaris
Linux (Slackware back in the mid 90's)

[SueEllen]

This is a sockie, right? no one is this thick surely?

He posts now and again...

[stek]

This is a sockie, right? no one is this thick surely?

[stek]

I'm a developer specialising in MS technology (.net, WPF), albeit from a Unix background, and I've been looking forward to this release and now it's finally here.

Installed it on both a desktop PC (clean install) and a Parallels VM on my MacBook Pro.

Initial opinion - very good looking operating system and the installation was without issue, aside from taking longer than I'd have expected. Then I started using it :-(

Oh dear. What a total disaster. Unresponsive, bug-filled piece of tulip. This isn't even an Alpha product. Totally blown my mind it has. I can't understand all the favourable reviews in the press. I can only think they've had their palms greased! Anybody using this operating system for more than an hour can clearly see how flawed and broken it is.

The new browser (Edge) is a joke, address bar one third down the screen, fails to respond to some hyperlink clicks. The inbuilt apps are rehashes of the appalling Metro junk from Windows 8.1 except in a Window. There's very much an emphasis (yet again) on the consumer (Xbox App that incidentally doesn't really work) to the point where I think businesses will once again take a look and think "no thanks".

Maybe time to return to my Unix roots I'm thinking. Very, very disappointing.

By Unix do you mean proper AIX on POWER, or Solaris on SPARC, or maybe HP-UX on RISC-PA or Integrity? Or do you mean Linsux on shiity PC or FreeBSD on ARM or some crap?

[AtW]

Win10's only useful thing is DirectX 12 for games.

And the fact that it's a free upgrade from Win 7.

[oliverson]

I'm a developer specialising in MS technology (.net, WPF), albeit from a Unix background, and I've been looking forward to this release and now it's finally here.

Installed it on both a desktop PC (clean install) and a Parallels VM on my MacBook Pro.

Initial opinion - very good looking operating system and the installation was without issue, aside from taking longer than I'd have expected. Then I started using it :-(

Oh dear. What a total disaster. Unresponsive, bug-filled piece of tulip. This isn't even an Alpha product. Totally blown my mind it has. I can't understand all the favourable reviews in the press. I can only think they've had their palms greased! Anybody using this operating system for more than an hour can clearly see how flawed and broken it is.

The new browser (Edge) is a joke, address bar one third down the screen, fails to respond to some hyperlink clicks. The inbuilt apps are rehashes of the appalling Metro junk from Windows 8.1 except in a Window. There's very much an emphasis (yet again) on the consumer (Xbox App that incidentally doesn't really work) to the point where I think businesses will once again take a look and think "no thanks".

Maybe time to return to my Unix roots I'm thinking. Very, very disappointing.