Reply to: Another Blow for Marxist/Atheism ?

[AlfredJPruffock]

I don't mind atheism. Some of my friends are probably atheists, I have never really asked them. Probably, I drift towards and away from atheism myself sometimes. Even the saints did that, right?

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Oh yes they did - the Saints named it the long night of the Soul - being abandoned by God - a bit like attending a Labour conference.

The early Christians were named Atheists by the Roman authorities because they didn't submit to the Pantheon of Roman Gods.

Well Boys and Girls I have to leave you now as Im off to the Rotters Clubs - I leave you with the Words of Pope - something somebody - or other -

"God is Everything - I am Nothing - that is enough for today "

And indeed it is.

[OwlHoot]

I didn't think of that, so if we use religion we can slap MF about a bit?

Most likely, but it depends how gullible he is

[GlenW]

superstition is one of the few ways smarter little men and women can influence and even dominate the big hairy guys!

I didn't think of that, so if we use religion we can slap MF about a bit?

[OwlHoot]

Let's see - unfounded beliefs mentioned in this thread:

1. Religion is one of the worst ideas the human race has created ...

Yes, that one especially is utter bollox.

If it hadn't been for religion and superstition, humans almost certainly wouldn't exist today.

In primitive groups, superstition is one of the few ways smarter little men and women can influence and even dominate the big hairy guys!

[OwlHoot]

Not winning it was their mistake, all they ever really tried to do was not lose it and that never works.

They forgot one of the main rules of warfare:

Tender-handed stroke a nettle, and t'will sting you for your pains.
Grasp it with a grip of mettle, and it soft as silk remains.

In other words, if you must have a punch up, steam in mob handed from the outset!

[GlenW]

people think the American's Vietnam war was a mistake, I don't.

Not winning it was their mistake, all they ever really tried to do was not lose it and that never works.

[minestrone]

Marx was a complete fruitloop, not that there is an issue with being a complete fruitloop, but people actually believed his fruitloopery and ran with it.

Socialism is a disease, a pox on humanity, people think the American's Vietnam war was a mistake, I don't.

[minestrone]

Best keep the kids locked up at home.

Almost 1,000 teachers accused of sex abuse - Telegraph

[Unix]

Unix is then raised from death to eternal life to general rejoicing, since he's not a naughty boy, he's the messiah.

[Unix]

Well he clearly made it up to some extent unless all priests were asked to will in a survey and none of them lied

I don't know the context, I doubt he phoned the papers to tell them this - surely it was an answer to a question someone asked him. It is a strange thing to say although as I referenced already saying "1 in 50 priests is a pedophile" is fairly meaningless without knowing how common pedophilia is amongst the global population.

And as a side note 1:50 are pedophiles is very different from 1:50 are practising pedophiles / have ever abused anyone. Although I doubt most of the 'closet pedophiles' would ever tell anyone.

I think it was 1 in 50 are NOT pedophiles, see this.

NSFW , swearing but funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

[d000hg]

Are you seriously suggesting that the Pope just made that number up? Do you think he got up one morning and thought that he needed to say something that would get his name in the papers and decided it was good to accuse 2% of all priests as being paedophiles?

Well he clearly made it up to some extent unless all priests were asked to will in a survey and none of them lied

I don't know the context, I doubt he phoned the papers to tell them this - surely it was an answer to a question someone asked him. It is a strange thing to say although as I referenced already saying "1 in 50 priests is a pedophile" is fairly meaningless without knowing how common pedophilia is amongst the global population.

And as a side note 1:50 are pedophiles is very different from 1:50 are practising pedophiles / have ever abused anyone. Although I doubt most of the 'closet pedophiles' would ever tell anyone.

[unixman]

I don't mind atheism. Some of my friends are probably atheists, I have never really asked them. Probably, I drift towards and away from atheism myself sometimes. Even the saints did that, right?

I am not that keen to spend time with those who make a *big deal* about being atheist (translation: I'm better than you). Or for that matter, anyone who makes a big deal about being anything. Like having a baby in the car (translation: I'm better than you), or how fantastic their kids are (translation: I'm better than you) or about being very politically correct (translation: I'm better than you) or incorrect (translation: I'm better than you) or being really into rugby (translation: I'm better than you) or having a flash car (translation: I'm better than you), or having a degree (translation: I'm better than you)...

Sure, lets talk about what a gifted runner your daughter is. Lets talk about it for a few minutes over this beer, it will be interesting for a few minutes. Then put a sock in it eh ?

[SpontaneousOrder]

This is easily seen by the fact that there are religious sects that are persecuted by mainstream religion precisely because of their mystical interpretation of religion.

So if religion is structured mysticism, as I suggest, then what you wrote reads like this:

This is easily seen by the fact that there are structured-mysticism sects that are persecuted by mainstream structured-mystics precisely because of their [the non-mainstream sect] less structured [structured-mysticism minus structure = mysticism] interpretation of structured-mysticism.

I.e. it doesn't show any such thing.

[SunnyInHades]

Religion

"A madcap dad is challenging the DVLA who have told him to remove his "religious headgear" from his driving licence photo - because it's a colander.

Eccentric Ian Harris, 51, is a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster whose followers are known as Pastafarians and revere the pasta strainer as a religious garment."

[BrilloPad]

I was suggesting an origin for 'religion'......

Religion. What someone places highest in life. For me that means CUK...