Reply to: UK cemetery: Christian graves must face Mecca

[expat]

it is illegal to bury Catholics in consecrated ground in the UK - hence no Catholic church has a graveyard!

"consecrated ground"? Would that be ground consecrated according to the rites of the Church of England?

[Ardesco]

Consider the poor Catholic who cannot even be buried whatever the direction - it is illegal to bury Catholics in consecrated ground in the UK - hence no Catholic church has a graveyard!

Don't you mean ground consecrated by the CofE? Surely the catholic churches can consecrate the ground around thier churches themselves and then bury people as they see fit.

[xoggoth]

Consider the poor Catholic who cannot even be buried whatever the direction - it is illegal to bury Catholics in consecrated ground in the UK - hence no Catholic church has a graveyard!

Raised as a Catholic Z and first time I ever realised that. Suppose I was never old enough then to think much about being buried.

[John Galt]

"Consider the poor Catholic who cannot even be buried whatever the direction - it is illegal to bury Catholics in consecrated ground in the UK - hence no Catholic church has a graveyard!"

Are you sure I know that suicides cannot be buried in consecrated ground under the catholic religion but that does seem somewhat unlikely

[Ardesco]

Lets have some Catholic extremeists running about blowing up muslims for a while then. thats should get the government going....

(although i'm thinking the catholic terrorsits will probably be smart enough to be well out of the way when the bombs go off....

[Mailman]

I think the council probably looked at it from this point of view, which religion is more likely to cut your head off if you offend them?

Mailman

[ratewhore]

Get yourself buried with your arse in the air then...

[zathras]

removing pictures of pigs from books.

And the really silly thing is that a Pig is not actually offensive, it is the eating of pork which is offensive - as it is I believe for Jews and no doubt for the same reason. The whole thing has got so farcical that some counties actually ban Winnie the Pooh on the grounds that images of Piglet is offensive!

Nor is it actually offensive to draw the prophet - It is idolotry which is not allowed. The same is true of the Christian religion. The whole thing about drawings, cartoons and the like grew out of a belief that drawing led to you worshipping the image and not the person.

As for changing the direction a grave faces. Have the idiots thought of having an Islamic section and then a protestant one.

Consider the poor Catholic who cannot even be buried whatever the direction - it is illegal to bury Catholics in consecrated ground in the UK - hence no Catholic church has a graveyard!

[Mailman]

Suddenly they do.

Mailman

[stackpole]

Does it matter? I didn't know Christians gave a shit.

[Troll]

BTW, post a link of where you got that article from otherwise it never happened

Mailman

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/di...entPK=15483807

[xoggoth]

It often seems to be the case that it is stupid white PC sorts that come out with these daft ideas, like banning christmas and removing pictures of pigs from books. It does little for race relations. Pity they don't bother consulting the more sensible and moderate members of the minorities they claim to be acting for.

[Mailman]

BTW, post a link of where you got that article from otherwise it never happened

Mailman

[Mailman]

Raza Ul Haq, Imam at the Madni Masjid Mosque, in Gladstone Street, Forest Fields, said: "It is part of our religion for dead bodies to face Mecca. It is very important.

"If for the Christians, this is part of their religion that they should be facing towards somewhere else, then we are 200% in support of them. It is our job to help and support them. If that is their requirement, then we will be supporting the Christians."

F8ck me, a muslim that actually makes sense!

Now, if only those numpties on the council would take notice!

Mailman

[abc]

This just in from the Islamic Republic of Britain: all graves in this multi-faith cemetery must face Mecca, because otherwise, you see, you'd have Christian graves facing one way and Muslim graves facing another, and that wouldn't be...tidy. And of course we mustn't risk offending You Know Who.

"A Question of Faith...Or Tidiness?," from the Nottingham Evening Post,

In today's secular society you could be forgiven for not knowing which direction Christian graves face.

Ancient tradition shows they should look east in anticipation of the second coming of Jesus Christ.

But all headstones at the new £2.5m High Wood Cemetery in Bulwell will be plotted to face north-east, in line with Islamic faith.

Muslims believe the dead look over their shoulder towards Mecca, towards the south-east.

Despite there being separate sections at the cemetery in Low Wood Road for different faiths, the council wanted to give a tidy, linear appearance.

Only on special request can families have graves with headstones facing in a different direction.

The controversial decision was taken after consultation with the city's Cemeteries Consultative Committee.

And it has sparked huge debate among city faith leaders.

The Rev David Gray, from St John's Church, Bulwell, said: "All faiths should have their beliefs respected.

"It would be wrong to stipulate one over the other, especially in our climate of trying to be sensitive of other people's beliefs.

"It is an evolving cemetery and should be made for people of all faiths and certainly people of Christian faiths.

"For some people it doesn't matter, but for those who prefer that they are facing east it is important."...

The local imam also opposes this preposterous bit of dhimmitude:

Raza Ul Haq, Imam at the Madni Masjid Mosque, in Gladstone Street, Forest Fields, said: "It is part of our religion for dead bodies to face Mecca. It is very important.

"If for the Christians, this is part of their religion that they should be facing towards somewhere else, then we are 200% in support of them. It is our job to help and support them. If that is their requirement, then we will be supporting the Christians."

If I emigrated to Saudi and I wanted my grave to face (say) north-west, what would they do? Are they so flexible when dealing with other faiths? From what I have heard the extreme ones are not even flexible with
the moderate members of their own faith.

There seem to be two standards. It's perfectly OK to burn an effigy of the Pope, it's OK to murder a nun, but you can't hurt their delicate feelings while exercising that strange thing called free speech, that they don't seem to like very much.