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Previously on "It's quite a shame that UKIP can't actually take outright power"

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  • darmstadt
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    The motor industry as a whole in the UK is not that important, especially compared to the aerospace industry: Motor Industry - Commons Library Standard Note - UK Parliament

    In 2012, the manufacture of motor vehicles contributed 10.4 billion to the UK economy,
    around 1% of total output and 7% of manufacturing output.
    The industry employed 129,000 people in Great Britain.
    The number of vehicles produced in the UK fell rapidly during the recession, from 1.8 million
    in 2007 to 1.1 million in 2009. Numbers have since had a partial recovery with 1.6 million
    vehicles produced in 2013.
    Most UK vehicle production is for export markets, with 77% of the passenger cars produced
    in 2013 exported.

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    State aid is not allowed, the EU is very strict on this.

    What you are suggesting happens is complete mince, like most of the drivel you post.
    Why do you keep make it so easy for me to prove you wrong?

    Why Nissan chose Sunderland for its Leaf electric vehicle - Telegraph

    The Government's financial support was also a major factor in its decision to build the Leaf in Britain, as were its signals on building places for electric cars to be recharged.

    The north-east's regional development agency has already announced a network of 619 charging points in its region will be ready by the start of next year, and this is an initiative that is unlikely to be left to just one part of the country. Nissan is particularly pleased that the Government has offered a subsidy of up to £5,000 from 2011 on the purchase of zero-emission vehicles, including the Leaf.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
    So you've got nothing against pegging, it's just impossibly obtuse Cthulhuian angles you've got a problem with
    Obtuse Euler angles more like.

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  • RetSet
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    I've bet £10K on UKIP majority, that's £5M in my bank account, on it's way.

    Ah, got it.

    You're Tarbie's sockie!

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Nobody is pegging me at any kind of angle, thanks.
    So you've got nothing against pegging, it's just impossibly obtuse Cthulhuian angles you've got a problem with

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by Euler View Post
    Bollux. Where's your evdience?
    Not that's its germane to our argument, but still that's unbelievable.
    Germany Exports | 1950-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

    Exports to Gabon 7157.00 EUR
    Exports to United Kingdom 6583.00 EUR

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Euler View Post
    No tulip Sherlock!
    But for TM such a banal observation constitutes a real breakthrough from cretinism to mild idiocy.
    He's now level-pegging you.
    Nobody is pegging me at any kind of angle, thanks.

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  • minestrone
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    As in the context of his post.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    State aid is not allowed, the EU is very strict on this.

    What you are suggesting happens is complete mince, like most of the drivel you post.
    Yes it is....

    State aid is prohibited under the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. Nevertheless, some exceptions authorise aid justified by common interest objectives, i.e. for services of general economic interest, as long as they do not distort competition in such a way as to be against the public interest. The monitoring of State aid carried out by the European Commission therefore consists of striking a balance between the positive and negative effects of aid.

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  • Euler
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    "minority parties can promise pie in the sky" is hardly astute. It's on an observational par with "people get wet when they stand in the rain".
    No tulip Sherlock!
    But for TM such a banal observation constitutes a real breakthrough from cretinism to mild idiocy.
    He's now level-pegging you.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Euler View Post
    Feck me you've actually made some sense for a change
    "minority parties can promise pie in the sky" is hardly astute. It's on an observational par with "people get wet when they stand in the rain".

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  • Euler
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    What you are suggesting happens is complete mince, like most of the drivel you post.

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  • Euler
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    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    True enough.

    Of course the thing with being a minority party without active power (or serious prospect of having meaningful power to exert) is it's easy and safe to put forwards silly stuff as policies. Since they will never be required to actually make them work in the real world then they can make them as nicely juicy in soundbite terms as they want no matter how impractical the policy is in real terms.

    The LibDems learned to their cost the reality of being in power is policies have to be paid for some way or other.
    Feck me you've actually made some sense for a change

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    They're in the UK at the moment due to other factors. e.g. They get government grants and other kickbacks that the other poorer nations can't afford, but if we withdraw from the EU and make it more expensive for them to export then they will move. Cheap labour will be one of the factors in where they go.
    State aid is not allowed, the EU is very strict on this.

    What you are suggesting happens is complete mince, like most of the drivel you post.

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Actually they will in the end. They will have no choice, and then they'll allow immigration from other countries i.e. family ties, and also to staff NHS and where there are other shortages, and then they'll find out that they don't have any influence on immigration, because it's decided by other factors.
    True enough.

    Of course the thing with being a minority party without active power (or serious prospect of having meaningful power to exert) is it's easy and safe to put forwards silly stuff as policies. Since they will never be required to actually make them work in the real world then they can make them as nicely juicy in soundbite terms as they want no matter how impractical the policy is in real terms.

    The LibDems learned to their cost the reality of being in power is policies have to be paid for some way or other.

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