Reply to: This Farage Immigrants with HIV Business

[RSoles]

Gosh, that's interesting.
I have Myasthenia Gravis too, going on to treatment with Azathioprine next month.
Had my Thymus out, still the bloody same.....
Currently on Mestinon and Prednisolone.

[Major Hassle]

Myasthenia gravis. I am treated with 6 weekly infusions of immuno globulin. I believe that something in the order of 300 people are treated in this way.

edit: having found a report on nhs costing I may be as expensive to look after as I thought. My basis was original treatment paid for by my insurers. The chared was approx 900 for each of the 15 bottles. The usage report seems to suggest current nhs costs are abot 500.

My wife has Myasthenia Gravis - was treated with Immuno Globin infusions until the Azathioprine sent it into medicated remission. Consultant based in Oxford top bloke, hope you're coping well it's a vile disease.

[SueEllen]

You're being childish and ignorant.
I've experienced other health services and the NHS on an ongoing basis for MIL's dementia. As well as a few other instances where I used it myself.
And it's very bad.
This generation of old people usually have no benchmark to compare the service they receive, the next generation will have travelled and lived in other places and they won't tolerate the stuff that goes on currently.

There are still people around who remember life before the NHS. I know OAPs born before 1948. While group who actually properly remember anything is getting smaller but they also have children who are OAPs who they have passed their terror stories to of their own birth, siblings' births and illnesses before the NHS. The fact that it was sometimes just advances in medicine that caused the changes are ignored.

I also know people who use the NHS for chronic childhood conditions and some get first class service whilst others get terrible treatment. However once both groups get to adulthood if they still have the condition the service goes down hill in all cases. Many are suppose to be deal with mainly in primary care by GPs who often know SFA about their condition so they end up going to A&E more frequently than they should.

[Euler]

Nah, all you do is the one trick pony calling everyone else ill informed cretins, I don't dare trying to contribute anything that will make your braincell jump to a different track. God only knows what the side effects would be.

I don't think even the best health system in the world can do anything for a congenital cretin like you
Have a good w/e!

[TykeMerc]

Try and contribiute something other than drivel for a change.

Nah, all you do is the one trick pony calling everyone else ill informed cretins, I don't dare trying to contribute anything that will make your braincell jump to a different track. God only knows what the side effects would be.

[Euler]

You've been practising it for so long and put so much effort in, it must have got easier for even you to do by now?

Try and contribiute something other than drivel for a change.

[Euler]

The question is, have they seen/experienced any system other than the NHS?

Quite!

[TykeMerc]

It can't be easy being such a div

You've been practising it for so long and put so much effort in, it must have got easier for even you to do by now?

[Euler]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

To say people who disagree with you are brainwashed is egotistical drivel.

"Look dear, all the other kids in the marching band are out of time. I'm so proud Euler is the only one doing it right".

You're being childish and ignorant.
I've experienced other health services and the NHS on an ongoing basis for MIL's dementia. As well as a few other instances where I used it myself.
And it's very bad.
This generation of old people usually have no benchmark to compare the service they receive, the next generation will have travelled and lived in other places and they won't tolerate the stuff that goes on currently.

[FatLazyContractor]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

The question is, have they seen/experienced any system other than the NHS?

[FatLazyContractor]

But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc.

It is not a free out of the sky service, is it? Someone is paying for it.

How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?.

Basic healthcare was what "most" of us needed when we were young. Basic fundamental bog-standard isn't a privilege.

[d000hg]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

To say people who disagree with you are brainwashed is egotistical drivel.

"Look dear, all the other kids in the marching band are out of time. I'm so proud Euler is the only one doing it right".

[Euler]

Even the right believes in the NHS. Only the real far right oppose it, and if you look at what else those people believe, it's clear they can be discounted as reasonable-minded individuals.

It's all too easy for people who can afford private healthcare to say the NHS isn't a good idea. But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc. How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?

The implementation may suck but "bad public services" is NOT a tautology, regardless what those who have let the privilege of money brainwash them to believe.

In my earlier post I talked about brainwashing.
I rest my case.
Even more "socialist" countries like France (which was long reckoned to have the best health system in the world) don't have a completely socialistic model like the NHS.
But if you're ok with mediocrity, with having the worst cancer outcomes in the Western world for example, then you carry on.
You'll figure it out when you're old.

[d000hg]

Even the right believes in the NHS. Only the real far right oppose it, and if you look at what else those people believe, it's clear they can be discounted as reasonable-minded individuals.

It's all too easy for people who can afford private healthcare to say the NHS isn't a good idea. But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc. How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?

The implementation may suck but "bad public services" is NOT a tautology, regardless what those who have let the privilege of money brainwash them to believe.

[Euler]

The top level of health insurance in countries without an NHS is much more than that.

Private health in the UK piggybacks on top of the NHS.

The US is silly with its healthcare costs.
The US and UK health systems are opposite extremes.
The more successful health systems usually take a middle way.

Sadly the left have managed to brainwash most UK citizens that the NHS is the best way.