Reply to: Efterling v Disney Land Paris

[darmstadt]

A lot of what MUN says probably goes a long way to explaining why no one goes and it now requires a big injection of capital: http://www.bloombergview.com/article...-can-in-Europe


The ones in Belgium have the best names, i.e. Plopsaland , or try somewhere else: List of amusement parks in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[MyUserName]

Maybe they just did not like you!

Well, it wouldn't be the first time!

[original PM]

It was ..snip ntil I left.

Maybe they just did not like you!

But yes that does seem like you found the 'Jonny No Stars' of the Eurodisney world

[NotAllThere]

Europa-Park - way better than Disneyland Paris.

[MyUserName]

You're an Idiot Abroad and I claim my butlins loyalty card :-)

I'm not abroad anymore - wait - what?

[oracleslave]

Hey, who says I don't!!!!????

You're an Idiot Abroad and I claim my butlins loyalty card :-)

[MyUserName]

If only you looked more like Karl Pilkington, you could've been on the telly!

Hey, who says I don't!!!!????

[oracleslave]

TLDR .

If only you looked more like Karl Pilkington, you could've been on the telly!

[MyUserName]

Well you said it was difficult!

It was ... in the situation described. Obviously I could do it right now very easily. I could have done it very easily at the time if I spoke good French. The fact that something is easy in a different situation does not mean it is not difficult in a different one.

But no not trying to argue just sometimes the French are just that 'French' and they do have their own take on customer service that is all...

At no point have I made that argument. I just said that the customer service in ED is poor in my experience.

In addition any of the people at EuroDisney will speak some English

No, they won't. I have experienced it first hand - see ... well the exact example we are currently discussing.

but as you said it was quite a diffiuclt comment to translate from English to French - thus the cashier might have had trouble understanding what you mean... as she/he was just expecting you to pay/ maybe ask how much...

We did not get as far as seeing whether she could understand the sentence (although you make a fair point that they might have struggled to understand it in their second language had we got that far).

Mrs MUN asked her in French if she spoke any English (we knew she did as we had spoken to her in English previously, we were just being polite) and she replied (in French) "Yes, do you speak French" and when Mrs MUN tried to explain in French that she did not know the French for what she wanted to ask the cashier simply shrugged and stared at her. We then had to try to muddle the sentence together for a few minutes whilst she stared at us and a large queue formed behind. Luckily Mrs MUN just gave up, I would have just stood there trying different words until I got my meaning across or the place shut.

Another cashier in a merchandise shop just shrugged and pointed at a different queue (after I had spent a good ten minutes getting to the front of this queue) when I asked in French whether he spoke any English. After that he simply looked away until I left.

[original PM]

Sorry, why did you translate that into French? Did you think that my point was that French language could not reproduce this sentence and it was the fault of this particular restaurant cashier?



Well, I guess that is true.

Well you said it was difficult! But no not trying to argue just sometimes the French are just that 'French' and they do have their own take on customer service that is all...

In addition any of the people at EuroDisney will speak some English but as you said it was quite a diffiuclt comment to translate from English to French - thus the cashier might have had trouble understanding what you mean... as she/he was just expecting you to pay/ maybe ask how much...

that is all

[MyUserName]

"Nous avons acheté ces bons dans le cadre de notre réservation, nous pouvons les utiliser dans les restaurants sur la route? Nous avons utilisé nos hôtes ceux là, mais ils ont refusé celles midi donc nous sommes un peu confus sur le système"

Sorry, why did you translate that into French? Did you think that my point was that French language could not reproduce this sentence and it was the fault of this particular restaurant cashier?

However having said that you could have that problem at Alton Towers and speak in English and get the same slack jawed look...

Well, I guess that is true.

[original PM]

And if you go to the Efteling you will get nothing but Dutch, English or (depending on the person) French\German.

You can get away with just speaking English in British tourist destinations because most European tourists speak, at least, passable English.

We tried to learn as much French as we could before going but when you are trying to say "We bought these vouchers as part of our booking, can we use them in the restaurants down the road? We used our breakfast ones there but they refused the lunchtime ones so we are a little confused about the system" when you are in a busy restaurant with no web access and a queue forming behind you because the English speaking cashier (as in she spoke English to us previously when we ordered something else) refuses to answer you unless you ask in French things get a little difficult.



Thanks for clarifying that!

"Nous avons acheté ces bons dans le cadre de notre réservation, nous pouvons les utiliser dans les restaurants sur la route? Nous avons utilisé nos hôtes ceux là, mais ils ont refusé celles midi donc nous sommes un peu confus sur le système"

However having said that you could have that problem at Alton Towers and speak in English and get the same slack jawed look...

AT Asterix world it is all French too..

[MyUserName]

Oh and they speak French because it is in France - if you go to Alton Towers you will get nowt but English spoken in a Stoke accent.

And if you go to the Efteling you will get nothing but Dutch, English or (depending on the person) French\German.

You can get away with just speaking English in British tourist destinations because most European tourists speak, at least, passable English.

We tried to learn as much French as we could before going but when you are trying to say "We bought these vouchers as part of our booking, can we use them in the restaurants down the road? We used our breakfast ones there but they refused the lunchtime ones so we are a little confused about the system" when you are in a busy restaurant with no web access and a queue forming behind you because the English speaking cashier (as in she spoke English to us previously when we ordered something else) refuses to answer you unless you ask in French things get a little difficult.

But up to you really!!

Thanks for clarifying that!

[Mincepie]

Is this the hotel? Stay in the village instead, much cheaper and just as good IMHO.

Yeah Hotel, i shall investigate the village

[original PM]

weeeelll doing Disney Florida this Easter -- should be fun.

Did Disney Paris about 8 years back it was okay kids liked it - we saw some characters but .....

A top tip is to book into the on park restaurants (do it early they fill up quick) and the characters come around - and whilst the kids are waiting they can eat - which then leaves you to enjoy the park without spending hours queuing to see someone in a costume.

Oh and they speak French because it is in France - if you go to Alton Towers you will get nowt but English spoken in a Stoke accent.

Have not done the one in Germany but have done Asterix park which is also near Paris - cheaper than Disney and a better day out I reckon - especially if the kids are a but older.

But up to you really!!