Reply to: Miliband rules out being prime minister ever

[TykeMerc]

The ABE effect is actually more to do with the English commentators we have to put up with when any English team is playing. They are arrogant, dismiss the opposition and slaver on as if England have a divine right to win every time.

I agree that's an issue in fact the whole pundit thing can be decidedly barf inducing, it's also patently bollocks.

[Batcher]

Possibly because elements of the independence lobby and their vocal supporters use the "anyone but England" approach when there's any type of perceived competition. That sort of behaviour added to the rest of the Nationalist sentiment (which comes over as very anti) just creates a negative atmosphere.

The ABE effect is actually more to do with the English commentators we have to put up with when any English team is playing. They are arrogant, dismiss the opposition and slaver on as if England have a divine right to win every time.

[TykeMerc]

He's probably on another forum now telling them about his insider knowledge of SNP branches making English people sit in the rain.

Always find it strange that people can't understand that a country would want to determine it's own path and wanting to do that makes you 'anti' English.

Possibly because elements of the independence lobby and their vocal supporters use the "anyone but England" approach when there's any type of perceived competition. That sort of behaviour added to the rest of the Nationalist sentiment (which comes over as very anti) just creates a negative atmosphere.

[DodgyAgent]

Don't be daft! SNP will never come up with anything overtly anti-English. Same as UKIP will never be openly racist (well they are sometimes).

They just create a climate of hate and resentment against the "not one of us" and will let their supporters do the dirty work.

So no one is allowed to discuss anything that may be even loosely attached to race? Suchas the groups in rotherham grooming girls and FGM?

Trevor Phillips is creating a climate of hate and resentment then? Things We Won
In Phillips’ view, the well-intentioned work of the EHRC to stamp out racial bigotry has succeeded mainly in creating a climate of fear in which it has become impossible to publicly identify social problems or investigate criminal activities with an ethnic dimension because those doing so will either be ignored or vilified as racists. Social workers didn’t help Victoria Climbie, for instance, because they didn’t want to be seen as high-handedly intervening in an African family’s culture; the predominantly Asian gangs who groomed girls in Rotherham were allowed to do so for years because the police didn’t want to get involved with something so politically sensitive, and so on.

[TestMangler]

Good enough for them. Don't tell whinestrone though or he'll dig up some other years-old Torygraph article to whine about

He's probably on another forum now telling them about his insider knowledge of SNP branches making English people sit in the rain.

Always find it strange that people can't understand that a country would want to determine it's own path and wanting to do that makes you 'anti' English.

[Batcher]

About 20% of my local branch are English (or at least have English accents). We make them sit outside in the rain though. c**ts

Good enough for them. Don't tell whinestrone though or he'll dig up some other years-old Torygraph article to whine about

[TestMangler]

Now, that is retarded. They are anti-English but you can't prove it because they don't do anything anti-English?

There is no climate of "not one of us". Everyone who voted in the indyref was a resident of Scotland, and not only Scots born. Why would they have harmed their chances of independence by being racist against people who had a vote? There are lots of SNP members who are English.

About 20% of my local branch are English (or at least have English accents). We make them sit outside in the rain though. c**ts

[Batcher]

Don't be daft! SNP will never come up with anything overtly anti-English. Same as UKIP will never be openly racist (well they are sometimes).

They just create a climate of hate and resentment against the "not one of us" and will let their supporters do the dirty work.

Now, that is retarded. They are anti-English but you can't prove it because they don't do anything anti-English?

There is no climate of "not one of us". Everyone who voted in the indyref was a resident of Scotland, and not only Scots born. Why would they have harmed their chances of independence by being racist against people who had a vote? There are lots of SNP members who are English.

[TestMangler]

Oh come now, you don't have to scratch the surface far to find a general dislike of the English in the nationalist movement.

What about you and your IRA chums ? Big fans of the English ?

[petergriffin]

You were challenged to come up with any examples of anti-English sentiment from the SNP. So far you haven't produced anything.

Don't be daft! SNP will never come up with anything overtly anti-English. Same as UKIP will never be openly racist (well they are sometimes).

They just create a climate of hate and resentment against the "not one of us" and will let their supporters do the dirty work.

[Batcher]

Strangely enough, when SNP supporters are challenged, they behave the same as UKIP fans: "It's not us who are racist, it's you who are retarded".

You were challenged to come up with any examples of anti-English sentiment from the SNP. So far you haven't produced anything.

I've worked all over England in my time as a contractor and got on with most English colleagues. There are quite a few I prefer over some Scottish colleagues. Their nationality has nothing to do with it.

As a Scotish nationalist, it would be hypocritical of me to deny an English person the right to be proud and to fly the St George's flag. I wouldn't have tweeted a picture of a house with the St George's cross and a white van outside as if somehow I was superior

[petergriffin]

Oh come now, you don't have to scratch the surface far to find a general dislike of the English in the nationalist movement.

Strangely enough, when SNP supporters are challenged, they behave the same as UKIP fans: "It's not us who are racist, it's you who are retarded".

[minestrone]

If you seriously think that people vote SNP simply because they don't like the English, then you are retarded.

it has absolutely nothing to do with anti-English sentiment.

Oh come now, you don't have to scratch the surface far to find a general dislike of the English in the nationalist movement.

[TestMangler]

Yes, SNP supporters love the English.

If you seriously think that people vote SNP simply because they don't like the English, then you are retarded.

it has absolutely nothing to do with anti-English sentiment.

[minestrone]

Miliband: "Labour will not have a coalition with the SNP. There'll be no SNP ministers in a govt I lead"

Sturgeon: "Miliband rules out a formal coalition no one was proposing!"

But then again...

Sturgeon: "The SNP will never go into coalition with the Conservatives"

Did the Tories ever offer a coalition?

They act like 14 year olds asking for dances at the school disco