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The term could also be interpreted as a superlative (c/f Winner's Dinners - "The rum babas were historic") so a reference to a "historic walk" could be an allusion to a stroll that was out of this world.Last edited by Gumbo Robot; 16 March 2015, 10:22.
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The premise of the question is wrong (perhaps deliberately to catch out pedants like me).Originally posted by Platypus View PostBear with me please.
The phrase "a historic walk" - how do you interpret it? I see two possible interpretations, although to me the "true" meaning is clear. Does it mean
(a) A walk that was in of itself historic; a walk that made history (because of its significance). For example, the first walk across the Alps. The first walk from John O'Groats to Land's End.
(b) A walk to or through somewhere historic. For example, a walk through the Forum in Rome, a walk through First World War battlefields.
Interested to hear your thoughts, thanks!
Had option (b) been: "A walk to or through somewhere historical...", then clearly (a) would be the only correct meaning.
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I thought that too - an historic walk, but when I googled it, it suggested that "a" is correct if the H is pronounced.Originally posted by Zippy View PostI think 3) was an historic walk
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It is called something else in Yorkshire -> Scunthorpe.Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostThat seems to have settled the meaning of "historic walk".
So now what is a British POW camp? Is it a camp in Britain for foreign POWs, or a camp overseas for British POWs?
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That seems to have settled the meaning of "historic walk".
So now what is a British POW camp? Is it a camp in Britain for foreign POWs, or a camp overseas for British POWs?
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You read that tulipe!Originally posted by Platypus View PostThanks for your thoughts. Like so much in English there are shades and nuances and I have it solved now.
Changing "walk" to "event" wasn't too helpful, sorry Suity, but I do appreciate the thought. And you misspelled "semantic"
It's my opinion that a walk can be historic if the walk I will do will go down in history, or if the walk has already gone down in history and I'm repeating it. I'm 50/50 with MS that a walk can also be historic if there is lots of historical stuff along the way.
Ta muchly!
Erm, ok.
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Thanks for your thoughts. Like so much in English there are shades and nuances and I have it solved now.
Changing "walk" to "event" wasn't too helpful, sorry Suity, but I do appreciate the thought. And you misspelled "semantic"
It's my opinion that a walk can be historic if the walk I will do will go down in history, or if the walk has already gone down in history and I'm repeating it. I'm 50/50 with MS that a walk can also be historic if there is lots of historical stuff along the way.
Ta muchly!
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I did a historic walk of 8 miles in Malham today
Feck fat !
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In most cases you wouldn't know that something you were doing was historic; it would only be years later that it would become historic. So you can't say "I'm going for a historic walk", unless perhaps you were Neil Armstrong about to step out on the moon.
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It's all about symantics
So we have a sentence :
I went on an historic walk.
So we have the subject, me, doing something and then the adjective, "historic".
Or rather, let's back it off a bit and forget about the walk and just say "event". This should allow us to focus on the adjective a little more.
I saw an historic event.
I was involved in an historic event.
It was an historic event.
All mean the same thing, and should give you the answer to which you seek.
HTH
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