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Previously on "Ipse governance structure - New"

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    For those who are interested (and if you aren't)...

    Nominations open 9th April and close 16th April

    Voting takes place between April 28th and May 14th.

    So that's just under 9 weeks until nominations open.
    Bump - just a reminder for anyone who is considering running. Five weeks until nominations open.

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  • Troll
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    I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member

    HTH

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  • mudskipper
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    Originally posted by GlenW View Post
    Faq and tractor by popular demand.
    Don't forget NLUK!

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by tarbera View Post
    Looks like nominations for the CC will open 2nd week in April for the contractoruk/ipse members looking to bring new focus/ideas/direction to ipse that you feel is currently missing
    For those who are interested (and if you aren't)...

    Nominations open 9th April and close 16th April

    Voting takes place between April 28th and May 14th.

    So that's just under 9 weeks until nominations open.

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  • tractor
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    .....

    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    FWIW - I agree with you here.

    Whatever your feelings, IPSE will claim the mandate to represent you. Whilst I don't think it would be a bad idea for the powers over there to listen to what a wider audience of non-members has to say (and maybe even engage more with that audience), the only way that people can influence policy is by getting involved on some level.

    That could take many forms - reading the emails and communications, voting at the AGM or in the elections (even if it's a spoilt paper!), posting in the forums, getting onto the CC, or getting onto the Board (for which you no longer have to have been a CC member any more).

    But if you want to be heard, then taking an interest is the only way that's likely to happen.
    To be fair, I don't blame IPSE for not listening. It really is the fault of the 21,775 people who are only there for the insurance. But I guess they may have tried in the past and gave up when the board had to be forced out.
    Last edited by tractor; 5 February 2015, 17:17.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by tractor View Post
    isn't that 2 more numbers than you are usually given on countdown*

    * last time I watched was 25+ years ago so things may have changed since then.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by tarbera View Post
    Perhaps, perhaps not, one thing is for sure ipse will be around for years speaking up for contractors (even if that makes your blood boil - as many will post in this thread It does, I understand that) so the choice is simple, continue shouting as ipse until you retire, accept that ipse has contractor interests at its heart, or join the CC/BOD and push it in a different direction or better one
    FWIW - I agree with you here.

    Whatever your feelings, IPSE will claim the mandate to represent you. Whilst I don't think it would be a bad idea for the powers over there to listen to what a wider audience of non-members has to say (and maybe even engage more with that audience), the only way that people can influence policy is by getting involved on some level.

    That could take many forms - reading the emails and communications, voting at the AGM or in the elections (even if it's a spoilt paper!), posting in the forums, getting onto the CC, or getting onto the Board (for which you no longer have to have been a CC member any more).

    But if you want to be heard, then taking an interest is the only way that's likely to happen.

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  • tarbera
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    You assume that in their two meetings a year, the CC can accomplish much. The only way you're actually going to change it is to get on the CC, get a majority vote to call and EGM and overthrow the board.

    No-one has to listen to the CC, which is perhaps why they weren't consulted on things until they were already done.
    Perhaps, perhaps not, one thing is for sure ipse will be around for years speaking up for contractors (even if that makes your blood boil - as many will post in this thread It does, I understand that) so the choice is simple, continue shouting as ipse until you retire, accept that ipse has contractor interests at its heart, or join the CC/BOD and push it in a different direction or better one

    Online meetings will be planned to enhance physical CC meetings to answer your question

    I probably won't respond to other posts in this thread as I only posted original to inform

    Any questions on the paper itself post on the ipse forums and a governance twsnk can answer

    Thank you

    Happy ranting everyone

    - rant comment not aimed at TheFaQQer but I can already guess most of the replies already )

    - rant comment not aimed at people not ranting

    Have a nice day

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  • tractor
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    wtf is Rachel Riley?

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  • original PM
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    wtf is Rachel Riley?

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  • tractor
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    Originally posted by Scruff View Post
    It all a bit like scratching your own back, with IPSE. What have they ever accomplished, over the years?

    It seems that they are more focussed on the Rachel Riley's of this world, than IT Contractor/Consultants?

    Change for change's sake...?
    So am I but that is another story entirely

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  • Scruff
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    It all a bit like scratching your own back, with IPSE. What have they ever accomplished, over the years?

    It seems that they are more focussed on the Rachel Riley's of this world, than IT Contractor/Consultants?

    Change for change's sake...?

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  • tractor
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    ...

    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    Perhaps that's why they changed it.
    Oh but they haven't

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  • mudskipper
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    Originally posted by tractor View Post
    Most importantly what kind of governance is it that fails so badly that the CC has to eject the entire board every few years because it won't listen?
    Perhaps that's why they changed it.

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  • tractor
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    You assume that in their two meetings a year, the CC can accomplish much. The only way you're actually going to change it is to get on the CC, get a majority vote to call and EGM and overthrow the board.

    No-one has to listen to the CC, which is perhaps why they weren't consulted on things until they were already done.
    Most importantly what kind of governance is it that fails so badly that the CC has to eject the entire board every few years because it won't listen?

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