Big trouble in little Europe

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One of today's BBC Offerings has allowed comments again

And when sorted by highest rated it appears that the general public is not buying the propaganda of "Russian aggression" any more:

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Leaders in new diplomatic push for peace

At this rate WW3 might be cancelled

[tomtomagain]

Anyone who would think we (As in US, Americans and the West in general) don't have Special Forces troops all over the place in these conflicts is insane.
It's what they do.

Absolutely right. Friend of mine in the UK army spent a good few months last year in Kiev.

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Here's another take -= this time with eye candy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAYk8W7Jv3s

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Quite a good take on the situation in Greece here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84j6DzzzyK8

[suityou01]

(a) The West should not have supported the overthrow of a democratically elected govt. in Ukraine, no matter how corrupt it was.

(b) The power hungry EU has been pushing its borders closer and closer to Moscow for years. They now "own" most of the former USSR satellites. They are wrong to do that. Ukraine in particular was a useful buffer between east and west, now the buffer has gone.

(c) As well as making the Russians nervous, EU expansion eastwards has folded in many small countries, throwing the European economy off balance and leading to mass movements of people.

Putin is nothing more than a KGB tyrant, but the West/EU is primarily to blame for the current snafu.

Rant on !!!

A good summary. How do you see this playing out in say the short, mid and long terms?

[unixman]

(a) The West should not have supported the overthrow of a democratically elected govt. in Ukraine, no matter how corrupt it was.

(b) The power hungry EU has been pushing its borders closer and closer to Moscow for years. They now "own" most of the former USSR satellites. They are wrong to do that. Ukraine in particular was a useful buffer between east and west, now the buffer has gone.

(c) As well as making the Russians nervous, EU expansion eastwards has folded in many small countries, throwing the European economy off balance and leading to mass movements of people.

Putin is nothing more than a KGB tyrant, but the West/EU is primarily to blame for the current snafu.

Rant on !!!

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Interesting developments.

I hope Merkel, Hollande and Putin make some sensible progress tomorrow - although Washington will no doubt push for more agggression and escalation.

With the possible Grexit and Russian offer of financial help to Greece the game does seem to be opening up a bit..

How much more pain can the EU endure from carrying out America's agenda - both economically and now militarily?...

Are the cracks beginning to show?

[suityou01]

The out of my face soldier was a Brit, his Twitter page was about but was pulled.

A Brit that works for NATO.

HTH

[vwdan]

Anyone who would think we (As in US, Americans and the West in general) don't have Special Forces troops all over the place in these conflicts is insane. Like that time a bunch of SAS lads were picked up in Libya with a variety of passports!

It's what they do.

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The out of my face soldier was a Brit, his Twitter page was about but was pulled.

[suityou01]

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Nato to bolster Eastern Europe against Russia

Nato is set to announce details of a plan to bolster the alliance's military presence in Eastern Europe in response to continued fighting in Ukraine.

However, in other news http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...diers-mariupol

And yet the tanks are already rolling in Ukraine "Truce"? Tanks Are Rolling In Poland As NATO Plans Permanent Eastern European Bases | Zero Hedge

And as the Grexit looms large the ECB just flexed it's muscles BBC News - European Central Bank toughens its stance on Greece

Now I'm not convinced there will be a Grexit, but I am looking at the eurozone as a whole and seeing massive destabilisation.

Britain is therefore highly likely to get spattered when the tulipe does finally hit the rotating cooling implement.