Originally posted by DodgyAgent
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The market is pushing down costs all the time. If you think what it is exactly that recruiters do then the Bobs are doing the same for less. The skills they (hiring functions) think are required are mainly admin. The questions are will the language and culture thing be a step too far? And just how far can the placement process be de humanised?Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
In the days when a line manager could be coerced and brought into a recruiters network the Bobs would not have stood a chance. Now it is different.
The only way things will change is if skills become hard to find and it becomes once again a suppliers market.
In the meantime Bobs your Uncle, Aunt, and recruitment consultant!
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On a more serious note, what do you agents think about the Bob agents in the market? Are they any competition? Or are they just vultures?Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIt just goes to show how brilliant we UK recruitment agents areLeave a comment:
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at what?Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIt just goes to show how brilliant we UK recruitment agents are
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It just goes to show how brilliant we UK recruitment agents areOriginally posted by vwdan View Post
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I personally don't have a problem working with them if I am jobless and am biting deep into my warchest. As with any other agency/contract, the basic rules apply:
- Fully reviewed /agreed/ modified contract before signing.
- I found them slightly more money oriented than the rest. If you are lucky, you will get your rate. If you aren't comfortable haggling, steer clear.
- Contract must clearly reflect the ownership, Client POC etc. They Sub-contract jobs that are usually done by Bob software houses and expect you to be a slave for that company. The hours etc MUST be agreed and printed on metal.
- Weekend working arrangements MUST be agreed in advance if you are sub-contracting. I usually charge 1.5 * rate for Saturday and 2 * rate for Sunday with an agreed minimum number of hours. Learnt my lessons after burning my fingers Sub-contracting for a Bob Software house.
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Can't even spell 'services'.Hi Stek,
My self Nithilesh working as an Technical Recruiter with Avance
It is regarding an Job Opportunity
Job Role: Middleware Consultant
Location: East Croydon, UK
Job Type: Contract
Please contact me nithilesh .g @ avanceservises . uk or call me on +44-203-478-5323 EXT#: 553
Nithilesh .G
Technical Recruiter for UK process at AVANCE CONSULTING
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No idea of their business model, but they're a total waste of time. I don't engage with them at all, now. Rates are always crap and requirements are always a joke.Leave a comment:
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Large influx of bob agents?
I ended my current contract in mid-December, and took a well earned three week break. I have been actively looking for a new role the last week or so, and it seems very quiet out there (as expected for January), but I have had several calls from a number of different bob agencies. I didnt realise such a thing existed!
I am struggling to understand the business model... are they offshoots of the big Indian consultancies? Do they offer clients a mix of onshore and offshore resources? Or do they simply provide recruitment services far cheaper than a UK based agent could?
I found all three of them that I spoke to (Silverlink, Damco and cant remember) extremely difficult to understand, and had to ask them to email me with details. One of them came out with a classic quote - "What is the maximum bottom line you will work for?"
Anyone else found this?
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