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I reckon I am going to set up a god agency and "sell" believers to the highest bidding god.
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Do believers in a god all have complete proofs as to why other gods are not real to not believe in them too?
If not then why should someone have a complete proof that their god is not real to not believe in it?!
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Originally posted by GlenW View PostYes, all agents share one soul and operate a system similar to a lending library.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostI'm not implying anything. I know there are flaws with this proof. I merely present it as a proof that some philosophers have come up with for the non-existence of God. SpontaneousOrder said it's not possible to prove God's non-existence because you can't prove a negative. I'm showing him he's wrong.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWho does God report to?
Do we have a structure chart to explain the hierarchy of stakeholders responsible for "our souls"?
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostAnd that it's not illusory. God works in mysterious ways, after all.
Do we have a structure chart to explain the hierarchy of stakeholders responsible for "our souls"?
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostI'm not implying anything. I know there are flaws with this proof. I merely present it as a proof that some philosophers have come up with for the non-existence of God. SpontaneousOrder said it's not possible to prove God's non-existence because you can't prove a negative. I'm showing him he's wrong.
You can prove a negative if you apply contextual limitations on the required levels of proof (ie - to the limits of human knowledge, or to the boundaries of reasonable doubt), but absolute proof of a negative can never be provided as humans are not omnipresent.
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Originally posted by zeitghostSeems to me that the God of the Old Testament is anything but benevolent.
Just look what happened to Job.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostYou are implying we have agreed a concept of what is evil from god's perspective.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostYou are implying we have agreed a concept of what is evil from god's perspective.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostFrom this we can derive:
- If an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent god exists, then evil does not.
- There is evil in the world.
- Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.
There you go. It's not impossible to construct a proof that God doesn't exist. Not that this argument is definitive - philosophers and theologians have been arguing over this specific proof for centuries.
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Originally posted by tractor View PostAs were Tesco profit forecasts and accounts. It makes them believable but does not make them accurate. It is not inconceivable that such accounts were derived in collusion with one another. The reason (not for the Tesco forecasts of course) may have been honorable and well intentioned but it does not make the subject any more or less real and certainly is not proof of existence.
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