Reply to: Writing a CV for a student

[BolshieBastard]

I think this is the bit you missed



Am just thinking of a different way of getting a foot in the door at least risk to the employer so he can make himself valuable. Am thinking small business with owner on site with a busy workload. They get a resource to trial to help them out and find out it actually works well so keep him on. You've effectively made a position that wasn't there if he had just dropped his CV off.

Even if the company is a bit mercenary and don't take him on he has experience on his CV working at a small accountancy firm, estate agents, anything. Gotta be better than a stint at McDonalds or the Garden Centre surely? Just depends on how long the OP is willing to pay him I guess..

Anyway, there you go.

I don't think for a minute it's gonna be easy and may not even work at all, just something to consider.

Nope. You see that's your major problem. You presume you know everything. And you dont. And that's why you misunderstood my post.

Now go and lie down take your medicine and STFU.

[northernladuk]

It's a very good idea, from my point of view. At the end of the day, he's my son and of course I don't want him to suffer and I hate that I've got a fair bit of spare money just now and he's always moaning about being skint.

I don't just want to give him hand outs all the time - where's the incentive in that for him - but it's hard sometimes to fight that instinct.

So, this would be a good way to get him to work for my money.

Not for me it ain't! No reason is a good enough reason for a Yorkshire bloke to part with his cash!! LOL...

But yeah, would rather support my lad from my pocket for a bit if he is willing to earn it and there is potential for some good stuff to come out of it if it all goes well....

[JRCT]

I think this is the bit you missed



Am just thinking of a different way of getting a foot in the door at least risk to the employer so he can make himself valuable. Am thinking small business with owner on site with a busy workload. They get a resource to trial to help them out and find out it actually works well so keep him on. You've effectively made a position that wasn't there if he had just dropped his CV off.

Even if the company is a bit mercenary and don't take him on he has experience on his CV working at a small accountancy firm, estate agents, anything. Gotta be better than a stint at McDonalds or the Garden Centre surely? Just depends on how long the OP is willing to pay him I guess..

Anyway, there you go.

I don't think for a minute it's gonna be easy and may not even work at all, just something to consider.

It's a very good idea, from my point of view. At the end of the day, he's my son and of course I don't want him to suffer and I hate that I've got a fair bit of spare money just now and he's always moaning about being skint.

I don't just want to give him hand outs all the time - where's the incentive in that for him - but it's hard sometimes to fight that instinct.

So, this would be a good way to get him to work for my money.

[northernladuk]

Haha. You grumpy old sod. You chat a fair bit of tulip too. Yes, I know you said the parent should pay his son. I was making the point the employer pays **** all.

I think this is the bit you missed

He could try saying he will work 'x' number of months on trial for free (you pay him) and if he adds to the business they start paying him

Am just thinking of a different way of getting a foot in the door at least risk to the employer so he can make himself valuable. Am thinking small business with owner on site with a busy workload. They get a resource to trial to help them out and find out it actually works well so keep him on. You've effectively made a position that wasn't there if he had just dropped his CV off.

Even if the company is a bit mercenary and don't take him on he has experience on his CV working at a small accountancy firm, estate agents, anything. Gotta be better than a stint at McDonalds or the Garden Centre surely? Just depends on how long the OP is willing to pay him I guess..

Anyway, there you go.

I don't think for a minute it's gonna be easy and may not even work at all, just something to consider.

[JRCT]

An interesting observation however if I need to employ someone to pick fruit I really do not care if they can use an apostrophe correctly.

What if they're comma (commie) pears?



That doesn't work, does it?

[BolshieBastard]

An interesting observation however if I need to employ someone to pick fruit I really do not care if they can use an apostrophe correctly.

[original PM]

Er, yet you start your sentences with lower case letters and very little punctuation (commas) in between!?

An interesting observation however if I need to employ someone to pick fruit I really do not care if they can use an apostrophe correctly.

[BolshieBastard]

Man you talk some utter sh1te sometimes. Go read the post again, think about it a bit and then if you have something mildly intelligent to say feel free to comment.

Haha. You grumpy old sod. You chat a fair bit of tulip too. Yes, I know you said the parent should pay his son. I was making the point the employer pays **** all.

[northernladuk]

Hmmmm. A kind of zero hours contract with zero pay!

Man you talk some utter sh1te sometimes. Go read the post again, think about it a bit and then if you have something mildly intelligent to say feel free to comment.

[BolshieBastard]

key for me and any employer looking to bring in casual labour probably on minimum wage is to demonstrate the ability to get out of bed and be where they are supposed to be at the appointed time and be able to perform basic tasks as required with a non negative attitude.

the cv must show the above as it is the basic hiring standard for this level.

Er, yet you start your sentences with lower case letters and very little punctuation (commas) in between!?

[BolshieBastard]

To kick him off why not try get him in to a proper role (albeit casual) at a business for free and you pay him. He could try saying he will work 'x' number of months on trial for free (you pay him) and if he adds to the business they start paying him. With a bit of luck he could get something pretty long term and some proper experience in something he is interested in perusing after uni?

Will take a lot of work knocking on doors but only needs one opportunity which could be a winner?

Hmmmm. A kind of zero hours contract with zero pay!

[Doggy Styles]

Talk about the final year project. Prospective employers are interested to learn about the research, approach and solution. Above all conveying enthusiasm for the research; he'll have a job in no time.

Life experience is important, foreign travel, exposure to other cultures (and I don't mean a week in Luton), show interest here.

I'd avoid talking about experience of work placements such as the garden centre.

Is that what the OP is writing the CV for? He said:

He's looking for part-time work just for a bit of general work experience and beer money.

[original PM]

key for me and any employer looking to bring in casual labour probably on minimum wage is to demonstrate the ability to get out of bed and be where they are supposed to be at the appointed time and be able to perform basic tasks as required with a non negative attitude.

the cv must show the above as it is the basic hiring standard for this level.

[JRCT]

He has some stuff on there which is a bit banale and that definitely needs to come off, but I do think there's value in having something to show that he's had some customer facing experience, for example, albeit in Argos.

I want to get him to write two versions, too. One for similar jobs he's had - part time around his studies that might be in a bar, shop or factory etc. Just for money and experience.

But also, one that can help him get some 'proper experience' in coding which is what he's studying. Originally he was concentrating on gaming, but has broadened that to give him a bigger target market, hopefully.

The biggest issue I have with this is that he lives 300 miles away from me, so it's not possible to sit down together and go through it.

Thanks for all your comments so far.

[northernladuk]

For sure, I'd mention date, title and occupation but nothing else. 'I move bags of composite etc' is really not necessary.

Unless part of his duties is handling cash, dealing with customers, stock control. Moving bags of composite [sic] can be worded to look impressive as well.