Reply to: UK called on Nato help in sub search

[scooterscot]

Swedish frigate:



UK frigate:



Yet the UK has a defence budget is 14 time greater than that of Sweden!!

We're such Bureaucrats, taking wrong turns at every opportunity just so people will vote for whoever is in power. It's a right old mess. Toffs at the top, plebs policing the streets and me in the middle making a fat pile of cash.

[minestrone]

They still have a potent surface and submarine fleet that could inflict massive disruption to the UK if not the whole of the West European seaboard.

Even if their missile firing systems are fooked, they could always scuttle a few Akula class subs and let the reactors go critical.

Now we know where suity has got to. Paranoid WW3 ramblings.

[minestrone]

Its nothing to do with government, the MOD have for years overspent, bought useless tulip or made bad decisions. They got their planes smashed up as they went miles over budget and were years late.

Defence spending in this country is appropriate for its size. You all like to winge about folk on the dole making do and eating well on benefits then are happy to see a bunch of half wit majors piss billions up the wall time after time. Hypocrisy it is.

[BolshieBastard]

Russia have been fooked royally by the US and the Saudis, their economy has been deliberately destroyed in recent months by the west.

They are poking around with few dodgy cold war era subs trying to pretend they still have something.

File under WGAF

They still have a potent surface and submarine fleet that could inflict massive disruption to the UK if not the whole of the West European seaboard.

Even if their missile firing systems are fooked, they could always scuttle a few Akula class subs and let the reactors go critical.

[tarbera]

Usual FUD from government to keep the russkies looking bad, just propaganda

[Flashman]

A £4 billion project ends up in the crusher
They've closed down most of the RAF bases in Scotland so would have been nowhere to put them anyway.
All from a Conservative led government that wraps itself in the Union flag at every opportunity.

Mindblowing really

[northernladuk]

These Nimrods?

[EternalOptimist]

Which is more that the UK have now in Scotland. Your point?

The point is that when King Alex heard there was a sub in Scotland he started issuing orders.
'I'd like to order extra salad, and I'd like to order chipotle sauce please'

[minestrone]

Russia have been fooked royally by the US and the Saudis, their economy has been deliberately destroyed in recent months by the west.

They are poking around with few dodgy cold war era subs trying to pretend they still have something.

File under WGAF

[BolshieBastard]

So why don't we use our Nimrods?

So a submarine can come right up on our coastline and we know nothing about it? Our defences must be an utter shambles, and yet we're building Naval ports in the middle east, dragged into US wars we've no business. Enacting laws that water down our human rights in the name of terrorism and yet this is happening. What the hell is going??

Sweden, lessons learned please? We're clueless.


BBC News - UK called on Nato help in sub search

Didnt the conservatives and their puppets, the liberal democrats break them (the Nimrods) up? Could have sworn they cancelled the new version of nimrod too.

Biggest laugh is these two new aircraft carriers the RN is getting. Not the fact that one will be mothballed. Not the fact ther'll not be an RN Fleet Air Arm (or RAF) to fly off them. Not the fact that they will 'invite' US planes to fly off them or rather one of them for 2 years.

No, its the fact, as anyone with a modicum of sea warfare knows, a carrier needs an escort of 4 frigates or destroyers to protect it. And guess what, we wont have enough ships to fulfill those duties in addition to the RN's other naval patrols.

You couldnt make this tulip up.

[scooterscot]

You never seemed to bother much about defence when the SNP wanted to defend Scotland with 3000 soldiers, 12 planes and 4 boats.

Which is more that the UK have now in Scotland. Your point?

[minestrone]

You never seemed to bother much about defence when the SNP wanted to defend Scotland with 3000 soldiers, 12 planes and 4 boats.

[scooterscot]

If we are going to be invaded it will not be by force.

Is that because the protagonists are using Vaseline?

[BrilloPad]

Does a country that invades another on a whim really need an excuse?

Heathrow is in more danger of damage operating at capacity 24/7.

If we are going to be invaded it will not be by force.

[scooterscot]

Why would they want to nuke us?

These days one drone at Heathrow could cause huge damage.

Does a country that invades another on a whim really need an excuse?

Heathrow is in more danger of damage operating at capacity 24/7.