Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr
View Post
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Collapse
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
- You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Logging in...
Previously on "What happened to bobbification and outsourcing?"
Collapse
-
Originally posted by vetran View PostIndeed unless it gives you real business advantage most companies only need off the shelf software and skill using it to make good money and cut costs.
The more I look at it most companies spend millions chasing a 0.1% advantage when they really need to work on improving their processes and people.
They just will not address the deaper seated issues of people simply not doing the job they are paid for.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by vetran View PostIndeed unless it gives you real business advantage most companies only need off the shelf software and skill using it to make good money and cut costs.
The more I look at it most companies spend millions chasing a 0.1% advantage when they really need to work on improving their processes and people.
Back in my permie days I was involved in providing software solutions to large middle eastern financial organisations and we got into the habit of offering a process improvement as an optional extra.
Most of them were so desperate to imitate London financial organisations that they would buy this optional extra, leaving me with the easy task of developing software that the client was paying extra to adapt themselves to.
I need to remember that one.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by SueEllen View PostWhich is what the majority of software does anyway.
The more I look at it most companies spend millions chasing a 0.1% advantage when they really need to work on improving their processes and people.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by original PM View PostThis is absolute b0llox complete and utter b0llox.
If you do that you will never have software that does what you want, you will have software which nearly does what you want.
As soon as you outsource anything like that you have put the software your company relies on to do business in the hands of someone who sole interest is making as much money out of you as possible.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
My prediction of the "Future IT" department looks like this. A small team of "contract managers" maintaining the contracts for a large number of SAAS applications. Complemented by small groups of in-house, business saavy, technical developer/analysts embedded within business units comfortably speaking both "tech and businesses" building applications that actually give the organisation a competitive edge.
If you do that you will never have software that does what you want, you will have software which nearly does what you want.
As soon as you outsource anything like that you have put the software your company relies on to do business in the hands of someone who sole interest is making as much money out of you as possible.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostIf testing is such a waste of time, how come it finds so many issues?
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by GlenSausio View PostYep, business savvy analyst programmers. That's what you want.
All the other parasites will move along: architects, BAs, testers, etc, etc.
I would like to see some kind of professional license become mandatory, like traders need.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by vetran View Postneither of those are likely to be permies, they will either be partners or via their own ltd yet HMRC doesn't shaft them.
Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View PostNot sure the lead was thrown away, I suspect most of the brains at that time just moved to silicon valley. The USA just has a far far better investment environment because of the tax laws there encourage a lot of risk. Whereas here, HMRC just wants to open a new hole - IMHO.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View PostNot sure the lead was thrown away, I suspect most of the brains at that time just moved to silicon valley. The USA just has a far far better investment environment because of the tax laws there encourage a lot of risk. Whereas here, HMRC just wants to open a new hole - IMHO.
Many of the brains did move away because of tax but also the complete lack of support for the industry may have had a little to do with it.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View PostContracting does earn more - I was commenting on perm-salaries. Though I've seen some accountants on £1500 a day! and barristers on £350/hr. so Comparing a contracting rate to a perm salary isn't entirely fair.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Basil Fawlty View PostFor the mid level skill-set that most contractors have, contracting in terms of financial reward is hard to beat. I've friends in accountancy, mechanical engineering, teaching, architecture, law and chartered surveying amongst other things and not one of them earns close to contracting rates in IB.
As for off-shoring, if I'm truly pragmatic about my experiences then I'd have to admit it has given me many many more opportunities than it has cost me. I know many folks who've been bobbed over the years, but they're all now in gainful employment both as contractors or perm.
Leave a comment:
-
Not sure the lead was thrown away, I suspect most of the brains at that time just moved to silicon valley. The USA just has a far far better investment environment because of the tax laws there encourage a lot of risk. Whereas here, HMRC just wants to open a new hole - IMHO.
Leave a comment:
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Streamline Your Retirement with iSIPP: A Solution for Contractor Pensions Sep 1 09:13
- Making the most of pension lump sums: overview for contractors Sep 1 08:36
- Umbrella company tribunal cases are opening up; are your wages subject to unlawful deductions, too? Aug 31 08:38
- Contractors, relabelling 'labour' as 'services' to appear 'fully contracted out' won't dupe IR35 inspectors Aug 31 08:30
- How often does HMRC check tax returns? Aug 30 08:27
- Work-life balance as an IT contractor: 5 top tips from a tech recruiter Aug 30 08:20
- Autumn Statement 2023 tipped to prioritise mental health, in a boost for UK workplaces Aug 29 08:33
- Final reminder for contractors to respond to the umbrella consultation (closing today) Aug 29 08:09
- Top 5 most in demand cyber security contract roles Aug 25 08:38
- Changes to the right to request flexible working are incoming, but how will contractors be affected? Aug 24 08:25
Leave a comment: