Reply to: Schumacher is gone..

[ASB]

You're welcome.

The picture is of Alex Zanardi's crash at the Lausitzring Oval in Germany during the American Memorial 500 CART race in September 2001.

Both of his legs were sheared off by the other car, so those lumps of flesh are actually bits of his legs.

Here's the BBC story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/1546118.stm

Apparently he forgot to confirm his test with BMW last year but is still due for a test later this year. A remarkable achievement. He has no intention to return to open wheels but still does pretty well in WTC.

[ASB]

Professional golf suffers less from cheating than any other sport that I know. But when I read books by Nick Faldo, Jack Nicklaus and others, they all stress how important it is to know the rules inside out, and to take advantage of them when you get the chance.

Ah, Tiger v boulder.

One write up here. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...50/ai_54539799

[wendigo100]

A lot goes to Jean Todt and Ross Brawn as well who organised the team's efforts. And a whole lot of cash. I reckon they spend twice what the other teams do.

Absolutely true.

However, they have always spent more than anyone else, even while they weren't winning anything. It was just that Ferrari were a bloated, political and byzantine disorganisation, and wasted a lot of it. The cars were pigs and broke down.

When Schumacher went there he demanded everyone got behind "team Schumacher", from designers down to component testers, and after a few years they had by far the most reliable car on the grid.

[Board Game Geek]

Cracking Pic

Cheers FG for that marvellous find !

I sat down to Spag Bol and decided to eat and surf..jolly glad I did !

What is that object just above the wheel, hovering in mid air ? Looks like a pancreas or spleen ?

[VectraMan]

That has always happened. Stirling Moss had a chance of being world champion, but had to let Fangio pass and win it because Fangio was the number one driver. Moss never complained, and never became world champion.

In the "good old days" if there was a problem with the number one driver's car, the number two driver was called in and told to give up his car.

In the big business that is F1, or for that matter any other professional sport, I think talking about "sportsmanship" is more than a bit naive.

[lilelvis2000]

Schumacher is one of the greatest F1 driver ever. He gave a barely-known team two world championships, then sorted out Ferrari who'd been an absolute rabble for 20 years.

A lot goes to Jean Todt and Ross Brawn as well who organised the team's efforts. And a whole lot of cash. I reckon they spend twice what the other teams do.

Statistically he is the best. I can't see anyone coming even close. Kimi has spend too much of his career with a vastly-underpeforming team.

[wendigo100]

Cheats on the other hand always look at the written word of the rules to justify their actions not being cheating.

This is a lot of nonsense. Pushing rules to the limit isn't cheating! It is why we have rules in the first place, to ensure that everyone knows exactly what the limits are.

Professional golf suffers less from cheating than any other sport that I know. But when I read books by Nick Faldo, Jack Nicklaus and others, they all stress how important it is to know the rules inside out, and to take advantage of them when you get the chance.

Next we'll be saying that tax avoidance is cheating!

[Flubster]

Cheats on the other hand always look at the written word of the rules to justify their actions not being cheating.

Like how to avoid IR35...

[AtW]

That was your first sensisble post AndyW-er, keep it up.

[Andyw]

I know what cheating is - I don't need specific rules for that because I know the spirit of honest competition and anything that violates that spirit is cheating.

Cheats on the other hand always look at the written word of the rules to justify their actions not being cheating.

Cheats on the other hand always look at the written word of the rules to justify their actions at not being cheats

[AtW]

d) Lack of understanding what cheating means

I know what cheating is - I don't need specific rules for that because I know the spirit of honest competition and anything that violates that spirit is cheating.

Cheats on the other hand always look at the written word of the rules to justify their actions not being cheating.

[wendigo100]

I remember how Schum was behind his team mate, but Ferrari bosses ordered his team mate to let Schum ahead because this way he'd get the points he needed.

The whole F1 concept is a load of tosh.

That has always happened. Stirling Moss had a chance of being world champion, but had to let Fangio pass and win it because Fangio was the number one driver. Moss never complained, and never became world champion.

Team-mates rarely raced each other for the championship - Senna and Prost, Lauda and Prost, Mansell and Piquet, Coulthard and Haakinen, but now I'm struggling.

None of what Schumacher has done is new.

[wendigo100]

Weasel-looking and shedding crocodile tears about his retirement. Good riddance, I say. Best F1 driver ever ? Not in a million years. All the stats can't hide the fact that he was always looking for an easy angle (preferably the one the cameras couldn't spot). If you are the best, why do it ? BTW, Ferrari would have dominated F1 with or without him, on the strength of their cars. Nowadays, it's like Scaletrix, they might as well leave the drivers out and use remote control (They should do that on LU too, BTW)

You know a lot about F1 then do you Asterix?

[Flubster]

I call it cheating.

Clearly through lack of understanding about
a) The rules
b) Tactics
c) Aim to win individual chamionship AND constructors championship
d) Lack of understanding what cheating means

[AtW]

It's called team tactics.

I call it cheating.