Reply to: RT.COM Really cranking up the propaganda

[darmstadt]

So, who's off to his birthday bash: Russia celebrates Vladimir Putin

From the 12 Labors of Putin currently showing in Moscow:

[SpontaneousOrder]

His take on the bank crash of 2007/8 is quite good and also very entertaining.

I liked him on France24 or whatever it was (i think france 24 as he used to have a show on there too) where in the middle of a proper interview he goes nuts with a toilet roll equating it to the current fiat ponzi scheme.

[tractor]

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I used to love Max Keiser back when he stuck to finance. Now he talks a lot about stuff he blatantly knows nothing about - but he's still entertaining in small doses.

His take on the bank crash of 2007/8 is quite good and also very entertaining.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Wait till you see Max Keiser, I still haven't worked out if he is insane or a genius!

(PS You do realise that RT is owned and operated by the Russian Federal Government so its bias might be a little more radical towards the US)

I used to love Max Keiser back when he stuck to finance. Now he talks a lot about stuff he blatantly knows nothing about - but he's still entertaining in small doses.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Hey Darmy

Absolutely correct, it was English. I don't speak Russian yet

I take your point, seriously I do, and it sits well. The only thing I would add is that this was practically verbatim what the tinfoil hat community has been saying for months all wrapped up in one program. So the question in my mind is, are RT just broadcasting this as some sort of propaganda exercise, or is it that the things are so bad in the west that the tinfoil hat brigade have chucked so much tut at the wall that finally some of it stuck?

I note the North Korean situation, but they are trying to have high level talks so I think this was just a local skirmish between a couple of naval boats. I have faith they will smooth this over.

I think calling it propaganda is a bit strong. It's generally just news, and mostly anything anyone with any common sense already knows.

The biases are just the same as any other news outlet, as ZL said. Only difference is that we call it 'propaganda' because the big bad ruskies said it.

They're a little bit leftie for my liking, but of all the news I watch on tv, RT makes up about 90%. It's generally good quality compared to the bbc/sky etc.

Generally a lot more balanced too as far as i can tell (they at least interview both sides of a debate without one blatantly being a patsy).

[SueEllen]

As the Russians used to say, "Russia has propaganda, the West has propaganda. The only difference is that western people believe western propaganda."

The thread shows that Fox and Sky news are doing a great job.

ABC news is better.

They show it on BBC New 24 randomly in the night.

I think it is fascinating as it's like the Daily Mail as a news channel then again it's probably because I'm also drunk.

[Flashman]

As the Russians used to say, "Russia has propaganda, the West has propaganda. The only difference is that western people believe western propaganda."

The thread shows that Fox and Sky news are doing a great job.

RT definitely has a ermmm slant... but at least you might learn something from the Russian point of view.

Sky News is just shoite.

[Paddy]

As the Russians used to say, "Russia has propaganda, the West has propaganda. The only difference is that western people believe western propaganda."

The thread shows that Fox and Sky news are doing a great job.

[Eirikur]

RT is Putin's propaganda machine. They are the only news station that show maps with Crimea being a part of Russia
What I don't understand is how can any self respecting western journalist work for a broadcaster that is heavily censored by the Kremlin?

[SueEllen]

The majority of people are fecking idiots, and the opinions they have dinned into them by whatever media they vacantly consume are whatever may happen to be convenient (for the moment) to those who control said media. (RT is controlled by Putin and co. So, Putin.)

I've never heard anyone say they learnt to speak English from RT but I have heard people say the BBC helped them learn English. I've also heard people say they watch British news especially the Beeb to learn about what's going on in the English speaking world....

[NickFitz]

What language was this broadcast in? English, wasn't it? This means it is primarily aimed at the English speaking world which has a predominantly free press and the majority of people are able to form their own opinions...

The majority of people are fecking idiots, and the opinions they have dinned into them by whatever media they vacantly consume are whatever may happen to be convenient (for the moment) to those who control said media. (RT is controlled by Putin and co. So, Putin.)

[tractor]

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Wait till you see Max Keiser, I still haven't worked out if he is insane or a genius!

(PS You do realise that RT is owned and operated by the Russian Federal Government so its bias might be a little more radical towards the US)

My brother watches this guy all the time.

[suityou01]

The BBC is a state funded propoganda outfit aimed at spreading British culture around the world. Its been successful, albeit expensive.
This russ outfit is much less subtle, and that means they will only preach to the choir. or the feeble minded

[EternalOptimist]

The BBC is a state funded propoganda outfit aimed at spreading British culture around the world. Its been successful, albeit expensive.
This russ outfit is much less subtle, and that means they will only preach to the choir. or the feeble minded

[SimonMac]

Wait till you see Max Keiser, I still haven't worked out if he is insane or a genius!

(PS You do realise that RT is owned and operated by the Russian Federal Government so its bias might be a little more radical towards the US)