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Previously on "Was the Scotland vote rigged?"

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Lose them to who? The SNP?

    The president of Yougov reckons SNP could get 26 seats in 2015

    In 2010, Labour won 41 seats in Scotland with 42% of the vote, while the SNP won six with just 20%. In the 2011 Holyrood elections, the SNP outpolled Labour by 45% to 32%; in this year’s European Parliament elections, the SNP outpolled Labour by 29-26%. In this month’s referendum, Labour failed to persuade hundreds of thousands of its traditional supporters to vote against independence. Plainly Labour has big problems north of the border. Parity in votes between SNP and Labour next May now looks perfectly possible. This could give the SNP up to 20 more seats, mainly at Labour’s expense.



    Ukip, the SNP and the risks of parliamentary paralysis

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    How did that go?

    I see what you did there.

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  • jemb
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    Not making excuses for him and I'm sure he knew his way around the swingers club but he was convicted pf perjury on the testament of Andy Coulson who has been charged himself of perjury in Sheridan's trial so Citizen Tommy could yet have his name cleared of those charges.

    He commands a lot of respect from people in poverty stricken areas of Glasgow so he will have a part to play in the GE.
    I walked the streets him handing out leaflets back in the day .... but he grew dodgier as time when by. Those who knew him dumped him pretty quick.

    The case against him didn't rely on Andy C's testimony, he knows it and he's trying to make as much hay as possible before his conviction is affirmed. There's no way back for him - he has too many skeletons - I reckon Gorgeous George has more credibility.

    Seriously, the SNP will have as little to do with him as possible - he's a liability. There are better representatives than a convicted perjurer....

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by jemb View Post
    Tommy Sheridan is ex politician and a convicted perjurer (To make (oneself) guilty of perjury by deliberately testifying falsely under oath).

    Salmond spent a lot of time trying to keep him out of the way.

    He's a crook. The 'Yes' campaign have better role models than him.
    Not making excuses for him and I'm sure he knew his way around the swingers club but he was convicted pf perjury on the testament of Andy Coulson who has been charged himself of perjury in Sheridan's trial so Citizen Tommy could yet have his name cleared of those charges.

    He commands a lot of respect from people in poverty stricken areas of Glasgow so he will have a part to play in the GE.

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  • jemb
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    It was estimated 3,000 turned up to the one on Saturday outside the Scottish Parliament. There were others across the country too, making donation for the food banks.

    BBC News - Scottish independence supporters hold Holyrood rally
    I wandered past and listened to a couple of the speeches.
    It was a sorry, sad, depressing experience.

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  • jemb
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    You're wrong (again). He's not been a member of the SSP since 2004

    Having you call him an idiot is a ringing endorsement for him. He's pro-indy so that gives him 1.6m supporters and I would vote for him if he was standing in my area.
    Tommy Sheridan is ex politician and a convicted perjurer (To make (oneself) guilty of perjury by deliberately testifying falsely under oath).

    Salmond spent a lot of time trying to keep him out of the way.

    He's a crook. The 'Yes' campaign have better role models than him.
    Last edited by jemb; 29 September 2014, 17:12. Reason: Tommy Sheridan lied in court

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    Cameron said the English question had to be resolved in tandem and at the same pace as the Scottish powers which clearly can't be done in such a small timeframe.

    We should see home rule/federal state in the near future and full independence a few years afterwards because rUK will be jealous of the standard of living we will be having in Scotland and they will break away from us
    Those are breadcrumbs he's throwing to the backbenchers. There will be no major reform of the English parliament before the GE and if he has to, he'll push through a Scotland Act with the Lib-dems and some Labour votes.

    There would be absolutely no way Cameron could stand for election without "Scotland sorted".

    ...and sorted it will be.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    You're wrong (again). He's not been a member of the SSP since 2004

    Having you call him an idiot is a ringing endorsement for him. He's pro-indy so that gives him 1.6m supporters and I would vote for him if he was standing in my area.
    Which just goes to show what an idiot you are

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    The scottish socialist party has 1.6 million votes? Having your cause supported by an idiot like him is hardly a ringing endorsement for anything that you can feel proud of is it?
    You're wrong (again). He's not been a member of the SSP since 2004

    Having you call him an idiot is a ringing endorsement for him. He's pro-indy so that gives him 1.6m supporters and I would vote for him if he was standing in my area.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    Cameron said the English question had to be resolved in tandem and at the same pace as the Scottish powers which clearly can't be done in such a small timeframe.

    We should see home rule/federal state in the near future and full independence a few years afterwards because rUK will be jealous of the standard of living we will be having in Scotland and they will break away from us
    I am sure Tommy Sheridan has all the answers for you lot

    In fact here they are:

    End all cuts and austerity
    Bring the energy companies and the banks into democratic public ownership
    Tax the rich and big business so that they pay their share
    Ensure we had a publicly owned oil and gas sector so that the profitsmade were invested back into jobs and public services
    Increase the minimum wage to a living wage
    Scrap zero hour contracts and poverty pay
    Create jobs and proper apprenticeships for our young people
    End the anti-union laws and protect workers’ rights
    Scrap Trident
    Last edited by DodgyAgent; 29 September 2014, 16:59.

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The Scotland Act is clearly on its way. The English question is separate.

    It is highly highly unlikely that any Scot living today will ever see independence.

    So I now suggest we celebrate the Union, all join together and sing "God save the Queen".
    Cameron said the English question had to be resolved in tandem and at the same pace as the Scottish powers which clearly can't be done in such a small timeframe.

    We should see home rule/federal state in the near future and full independence a few years afterwards because rUK will be jealous of the standard of living we will be having in Scotland and they will break away from us

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    I think you'll find there's 1.6m
    The scottish socialist party has 1.6 million votes? Having your cause supported by an idiot like him is hardly a ringing endorsement for anything that you can feel proud of is it?

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    The timetable said the new Scotland bill would be published by Burns' night in January before the GE so we should know what we are getting. The 2nd reading would be immediately after the GE.

    Any delay to that timetable will see pressure for another referendum. Labour will lose half their seats in Scotland and theTories will lose some of theirs in England to UKIP. The union is finished.
    The Scotland Act is clearly on its way. The English question is separate.

    It is highly highly unlikely that any Scot living today will ever see independence.

    So I now suggest we celebrate the Union, all join together and sing "God save the Queen".
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 29 September 2014, 16:59.

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    All 8000 of them
    I think you'll find there's 1.6m

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    Pro-indy parties, yes.

    S Tommy Sheridan is already telling his supporters to vote SNP.
    All 8000 of them

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