Reply to: French acting up again.

[evilagent]

I think we should have a football-stylee promotion/relegation method.

We accept the top 2% of the best refugees from developing countries in exchange for demoting the lowest 2% indigenous, unproductive, benefit-scrounging, hangers-on / losers to the respective developing countries.

The proviso being the promoted refugees would accept no more than 50% of the benefits the indigenous losers were taking.

That way, by a competitive process, the UK could benefit from people who are willing to risk their lives to have a better life, and enrich their new country.

And, the fat, lazy, layabouts, could benefit of living in a poor country, with very little, and may lose a bit of weight through ambient starvation, learn to appreciate what they had, etc.

[tractor]

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So would you have sent the kindertransport children back to the Netherlands?

Well in those days, we sent our own kids packing to Australia.

The world is a different place now.

[vetran]

Yet the situation would be so easy to avoid, just ship the feckless economic migrants back to their countries of origin, if they refuse to name their place of origin default to the worst sh1thole imaginable or 4 meters of anchor chain and a nice deep bit of the Med, simples

No keep them out of Italy. Return anyone who gets to France to an Edge state such as Italy.

Centralise asylum claims and make the EU distribute the migrants and pay centrally for their upkeep.

would stop dead.

[TykeMerc]

surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

Yet the situation would be so easy to avoid, just ship the feckless economic migrants back to their countries of origin, if they refuse to name their place of origin default to the worst sh1thole imaginable or 4 meters of anchor chain and a nice deep bit of the Med, simples

[vetran]

Invasion

surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

[FatLazyContractor]

Invasion

[vetran]

So would you have sent the kindertransport children back to the Netherlands?

no, it was a UK government sanctioned evacuation. Not some guys crossing Europe in a shipping container paid for by a crime syndicate.

smell the straw burn.

[Old Greg]

the current situation is that many spread out across Europe cherry picking the country they want asylum in. Frequently lying to get in.

Many pay organised crime for the privilege.

By all means accept genuine refugees at the point of entry, then distribute across the EU sensibly. But those that have traveled through safe countries aren't by definition genuine Asylum seekers, they should have claimed asylum in the first safe country they entered.

So would you have sent the kindertransport children back to the Netherlands?

[vetran]

With the exception of course of genuine refugees who will be persecuted at home.

the current situation is that many spread out across Europe cherry picking the country they want asylum in. Frequently lying to get in.

Many pay organised crime for the privilege.

By all means accept genuine refugees at the point of entry, then distribute across the EU sensibly. But those that have traveled through safe countries aren't by definition genuine Asylum seekers, they should have claimed asylum in the first safe country they entered.

[SueEllen]

Sorry.

[Old Greg]

Can't we just fly them all to Syria?

Perhaps you could escort them.

[Old Greg]

The point of entry is where they should be booted back from, obviously that's where the asylum claims should be handled too.

I've zero issues with France or wherever handcuffing and forcibly deporting the economic migrants, in fact I positively support it. The EU member states already spend a fair bit on detention and (in the case of the UK certainly) ludicrous long timescales to feck these people off back where they came from, make it simple and a good deal faster then it will save a heap of cash.

It's high time that the authorities stopped condoning this migrant behaviour and got down to the reality of the situation which is no visa, no entry and feck off back home.

With the exception of course of genuine refugees who will be persecuted at home.

[cailin maith]

The point of entry is where they should be booted back from, obviously that's where the asylum claims should be handled too.

I've zero issues with France or wherever handcuffing and forcibly deporting the economic migrants, in fact I positively support it. The EU member states already spend a fair bit on detention and (in the case of the UK certainly) ludicrous long timescales to feck these people off back where they came from, make it simple and a good deal faster then it will save a heap of cash.

It's high time that the authorities stopped condoning this migrant behaviour and got down to the reality of the situation which is no visa, no entry and feck off back home.

WHS

[TykeMerc]

I personally agree with policing it in the first country, however Italy would have a real issue as most seem to land there. Its something the EU should manage, they seem more interested in hair dryers.

The point of entry is where they should be booted back from, obviously that's where the asylum claims should be handled too.

I've zero issues with France or wherever handcuffing and forcibly deporting the economic migrants, in fact I positively support it. The EU member states already spend a fair bit on detention and (in the case of the UK certainly) ludicrous long timescales to feck these people off back where they came from, make it simple and a good deal faster then it will save a heap of cash.

It's high time that the authorities stopped condoning this migrant behaviour and got down to the reality of the situation which is no visa, no entry and feck off back home.

[Flashman]

British problem causing havoc for the French

I suppose we should sort out our immigration problem but apparently that's too hard for our politicians.