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Previously on "Spend welfare budget on roads and rail?"

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Pensions need their pension after all they contributed to them and most of them aren't fit enough to work again. (Or where did you think most of the welfare budget went?)

    under half of the welfare bill is state pension. They include it so they can shout remember the pensioners!

    UK welfare spending: how much does each benefit really cost? Visualised | News | theguardian.com

    that also forgets that many pensioners lose much of their state pension because they have a private one. So the payouts may not reflect those taxed out of a pension.

    HM Revenue & Customs: How your pension income is taxed

    we should split it up and focus on the large number of unemployed and unemployable who need our help to get back to work.

    Also now many future pensioners have never contributed a significant amount to their state pension. Taxation at the bottom end means that a good portion of the workforce receive more in work benefits than they pay in tax.

    logic not emotion.
    Last edited by vetran; 6 August 2014, 08:58.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post

    How about switching QE to infrastructure spending thus creating jobs and moving out of welfare?
    Pensions need their pension after all they contributed to them and most of them aren't fit enough to work again. (Or where did you think most of the welfare budget went?)

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  • Bunk
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    So I still stand a chance of becoming a politician then?
    Nope, he said you were making sense, therefore you're unelectable

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  • barrydidit
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    I think this might be the report on spending I was thinking of. It was a couple of years ago but i don't imagine anything has radically changed.

    A fellow passenger was reading this Grauniad article on the train today. Quite interesting. I can't help but think this is all pie in the sky pre-election chatter though.

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  • GreyWolf
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    Spending on infrastructure would benefit everyone equally so they couldn't possibly do that. Welfare spending can be directed to preferred groups who will then hand over their postal votes as a sign of their appreciation.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Whatever it is spent on, we can be sure much of it will be wasted/go to graft, anyway...

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
    Strange as the roads in Wales seem a lot better maintained than in England.

    But then increased spending often just gets wasted anyway
    True for England - not for London.

    Maintained roads = speeding drivers = loads of income for Wales.

    I drove round NE Anglessey last week - 4 camera vans in 15 miles.

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by barrydidit View Post
    This would apply to Wales and Scotland too. When you see the numbers for spending on transport infrastructure per head of population London gets hundreds or times more. I don't doubt it's more expensive adding new tube lines etc but we all pay the same tax rates wherever we live so it does grate.

    He won't win friends with the welfare angle though. Sadly.
    Strange as the roads in Wales seem a lot better maintained than in England.

    But then increased spending often just gets wasted anyway

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  • barrydidit
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    This would apply to Wales and Scotland too. When you see the numbers for spending on transport infrastructure per head of population London gets hundreds or times more. I don't doubt it's more expensive adding new tube lines etc but we all pay the same tax rates wherever we live so it does grate.

    He won't win friends with the welfare angle though. Sadly.

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  • vetran
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    about time, spread the wealth!

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    You were making sense up to that point.
    So I still stand a chance of becoming a politician then?

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    George Osborne: spend welfare budget on roads and rail - Telegraph

    How about switching QE to infrastructure spending thus creating jobs and moving out of welfare? Or going with UKIP proposals on immigration to get people into work?
    You were making sense up to that point.

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  • BrilloPad
    started a poll Spend welfare budget on roads and rail?

    Spend welfare budget on roads and rail?

    8
    Yes
    50.00%
    4
    No
    25.00%
    2
    I spend my budget on AndyW's mum
    25.00%
    2
    George Osborne: spend welfare budget on roads and rail - Telegraph

    How about switching QE to infrastructure spending thus creating jobs and moving out of welfare? Or going with UKIP proposals on immigration to get people into work?

    What a pillock.
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