Reply to: contracting direct

[kal]

Yes. Lose(pimp) == win, no ?

Boo

Aha gotcha

[Boo]

lose(pimp) surely?

Yes. Lose(pimp) == win, no ?

Boo

[evilagent]

If you've gone direct, then agencies aren't in the loop.

But as mentioned, you don't get the whole commission that the agency won't get.
You get a split of it, as the end-client will want to feel some benefit.

If you can stomach the difference between being paid within a week, as opposed to 30-60 days, go for it.

[kal]

If the agent loses out isn't that win win win ?

Boo

Win(client) win(me) lose(pimp) surely?

[Boo]

...everyone saves and the agent loses out, win win in my book...

If the agent loses out isn't that win win win ?

Boo

[kal]

I worked with a Scouser about 10 years back, and I jokingly suggested asking Jeeves.

His answer, which will remain with me for some time, was (in a thick Jim Royal accent) "Jeeves - he knows f**k all, that b*stard!"

Wise man... He's obviously too intelligent to make recruitment his 'profession'

[DirtyDog]

Or Ask Jeeves...

I worked with a Scouser about 10 years back, and I jokingly suggested asking Jeeves.

His answer, which will remain with me for some time, was (in a thick Jim Royal accent) "Jeeves - he knows f**k all, that b*stard!"

[kal]

You lie - we know that you haven't moved past altavista.digital.com

Or Ask Jeeves...

[DirtyDog]

We Googled it.

You lie - we know that you haven't moved past altavista.digital.com

[northernladuk]

We Googled it.

Hope it wasn't this page! Beware of google!

[Andy Hallett]

or do anything if they do find out

We certainly do. Can't speak for others.

[Sausage Surprise]

Great advice. They have no idea that this goes on, and will never ever find out that this happens....

or do anything if they do find out

[Antman]

Oddly with me when I've been direct the best payers have been medium sized companies then small companies in that order.

Multinationals - even if you have it agreed they pay you at a specific time - often have a separate accounts department who know they can get away with not paying small suppliers.

Oh and keep your ear to the ground regardless of company size as Enron and Lehman Brothers weren't exactly small companies.....

Yes, I know what you mean, the team who pay my invoices are located in Poland. I'm also having to use their Ariba platform and consequently pay Ariba for being able to raise invoices through them, which is ok I suppose only Ariba doesn't process multiple (weekly) invoices raised against a purchase order, so I invoice them myself (no way around paying Ariba £80 this year to raise my own invoices!)

[Andy Hallett]

What Andy from the agency is trying to say is that it happens all the time and quite often the agencies can't do anything about it.

Not in our experience

Unless their crystal ball is on the blink and they don't know...

We are a bit more advanced than that

I'm amazed that some of your lot manage to know which end of a phone to speak into

We Googled it.

[DirtyDog]

If you do go through with it, be very clear on the payment terms and make sure they stick with them. You don't want to sign up and then discover they won't pay you for 3 months after invoice.

That's really the only downside to going direct: you might have more of a battle to get your money.

+1

Current contract is direct - invoice at the end of the month and then payment is 60 day terms.

Curiously, the PO says that the payment terms are 30 days, which is what they stick to (and occasionally lump two invoices together to pay one early).