Reply to: Alexander Mann

[Taita]

Just had a call from these guys, role coming up in a few weeks which ties-in nicely with my current gig ending.......in theory!

So, what's the word of late on AM? Anyone currently with them, got any experiences to chuck into the middle? Gig looks like my thing, no silly requests as yet, 30 day terms but with weekly billing no problem - all seems OK on the surface....

They have been around a long time. I doubt that they go out of their way to be difficult (apart from some basic initial recruitment processes) as that will only get in the way of business.

[kevpuk]

Just had a call from these guys, role coming up in a few weeks which ties-in nicely with my current gig ending.......in theory!

So, what's the word of late on AM? Anyone currently with them, got any experiences to chuck into the middle? Gig looks like my thing, no silly requests as yet, 30 day terms but with weekly billing no problem - all seems OK on the surface....

[CoolCat]

Capita are on my avoid list purely because of the nonsense they ask you for before you've even fully apply for a gig. Tried reasoning with them and just got "computer says no". Foxtrot oscar then is my opinion

yep they are only going to get naive young things giving them all that info. in fact being prepared to give all that info at such an early part of the recruitment cycle pretty much would demonstrate how inexperienced that candiate was!

[Gordon Ice]

Capita

Wow just seen the Capita "candidate registration form"...

Asks for everything short of my inside leg measurement and bank card pin number.

What silly people, thats another decent candidate that will just give them a miss, and when I am back in the recruiters seat will be crossing off my list of agencies to call.

Capita are on my avoid list purely because of the nonsense they ask you for before you've even fully apply for a gig. Tried reasoning with them and just got "computer says no". Foxtrot oscar then is my opinion

[BrilloPad]

Its the same on the permie side with regards to wanting information. I just started a new role and at the end things were held up as they wanted a utility bill from 2010. Just ridiculous.

[CoolCat]

So moving on from those agencies not being prepared to put your CV forward unless they have your wifes phone number, inside leg measurement, and so on… How about the agency you have repeatedly told to leave you alone? "http://www.ubiquesystems.co.uk" (sound like a bunch of Indian nationals here on uncapped ICT work visas) have been told by me many times that I wouldn’t never work for the stupidly low rates they want to offer, and please don’t put my CV forwards. Nevertheless they obviously are putting the CV forwards to their clients as they keep ringing up telling me the client loves my CV and will I do it for not very much + very little rate increase. How many ways of telling them to leave me alone can I try? Pity their poor clients.

Interestingly the "www.ubiquesystems.co.uk" website tells me that “The organisation believes in 5 basic beliefs” and “1 Maintenance of high ethical standards in external and internal relationships” is their top one. Now just how ethical is it to put forwards CV when the candidates has specifically told them not to?

[Dominic Connor]

Wow just seen the Capita "candidate registration form"...

Asks for everything short of my inside leg measurement and bank card pin number.

What silly people, thats another decent candidate that will just give them a miss, and when I am back in the recruiters seat will be crossing off my list of agencies to call.

Could I ask a favour ?
Could you email me a scan or photo of the Capita form ?

My email is my first name dot second name at gmail

I'm doing a piece about scammy things agents try on contractors, it might be useful.

[Taita]

Capita are asking more intrusive and personal questions than you need to answer to get the highest levels of security clearance, really taking the mickey.

And they are a UK company! Do they also ask for a Data Protection waiver?

[CoolCat]

Capita are asking more intrusive and personal questions than you need to answer to get the highest levels of security clearance, really taking the mickey.

[mos]

It is not "fairly standard with multinationals" unless you mean those slave trading Indian outsourcers, Tata, Cognizant, Infosys, and the rest. I have never come across it in any other walk of life other than recruitment agencies. And for me it tells me all I need to know about the standards in play at that recruiter, lowest cost possible, outsourced to some hell hole of indentured servitude and no data protection rules in what its own head of anti corruption called the most corrupt country on the planet.

I was shocked and dismayed when asked to sign such form in 2012 with Experis (Manpower).

[gingerjedi]

Don't forget the 30 day payment terms.

[EstherA4C]

Wow just seen the Capita "candidate registration form"...

Asks for everything short of my inside leg measurement and bank card pin number.

The fact is you give them all your data, it's pumped into a database somewhere for a management accountant to report on or for the PR team to write articles about the increase of xyz!

[CoolCat]

Wow just seen the Capita "candidate registration form"...

Asks for everything short of my inside leg measurement and bank card pin number.

What silly people, thats another decent candidate that will just give them a miss, and when I am back in the recruiters seat will be crossing off my list of agencies to call.

[CoolCat]

What happens is that you sign a document allowing the information holder to hold and process it outside the EC. It is fairly standard with multinationals and/or their agents and not illegal if the formalities are correctly observed.

It is not "fairly standard with multinationals" unless you mean those slave trading Indian outsourcers, Tata, Cognizant, Infosys, and the rest. I have never come across it in any other walk of life other than recruitment agencies. And for me it tells me all I need to know about the standards in play at that recruiter, lowest cost possible, outsourced to some hell hole of indentured servitude and no data protection rules in what its own head of anti corruption called the most corrupt country on the planet.

[Taita]

As far as I understand it, you can only 'opt-out' of marketing restrictions, not data protection per se.

I would ask the Information Commissioner’s Office about this and send them the details. I'm not sure that this is legal.

What happens is that you sign a document allowing the information holder to hold and process it outside the EC. It is fairly standard with multinationals and/or their agents and not illegal if the formalities are correctly observed.