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Previously on "Strike early or wait for blame game to start?"

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Depending on how senior you are on the team
    This is spot on. Sadly the other fella assumes too much.


    if you simply say nothing you could find:
    1. You are blamed for the failure, and,
    2. You aren't paid for the last month and/or they try and get money back from you.

    I've seen it happen a few times, and the people who don't get shafted are the ones who make it clear verbally and following it up in email, what the risks are that will cause project failure and possible solutions.

    Once you outline the risks and solutions once you ignore them and carry on. This means you allow the rest of the team to b*tch and back stab.

    It doesn't stop them not renewing your contract but they are careful when they do 1, and definitely don't do 2 as they know you can take them to court.

    BTW you don't have to be a PM to be senior in the team you just need to be responsible for one or more specific deliverables that involves other inexperienced people's input.
    I wouldnt disagree with most of that.

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by escapeUK View Post
    It would if it was me. Are you a bit rubbish?
    No, Im fine thanks. Plenty of repeat business and just asked to extend again today. I know when to speak up and give the client the benefit of my POV and when its not needed.

    But you clearly are see yourself as something superior needing to stick your oar in whenever it suits you

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    LOL! Yep, that'll work.
    Depending on how senior you are on the team if you simply say nothing you could find:
    1. You are blamed for the failure, and,
    2. You aren't paid for the last month and/or they try and get money back from you.

    I've seen it happen a few times, and the people who don't get shafted are the ones who make it clear verbally and following it up in email, what the risks are that will cause project failure and possible solutions.

    Once you outline the risks and solutions once you ignore them and carry on. This means you allow the rest of the team to b*tch and back stab.

    It doesn't stop them not renewing your contract but they are careful when they do 1, and definitely don't do 2 as they know you can take them to court.

    BTW you don't have to be a PM to be senior in the team you just need to be responsible for one or more specific deliverables that involves other inexperienced people's input.

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  • escapeUK
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    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    LOL! Yep, that'll work.
    It would if it was me. Are you a bit rubbish?

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  • captainham
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    Originally posted by JamJarST View Post
    Why don't you do what you were contracted to do and stop playing politics like a permanent employee?
    This is one of the main reasons I left permiedom, to get away from exactly this kind of game-playing. Unless you're being addressed/criticised directly, I would just get my head down, carry on with the task in hand, and carry on invoicing, ensuring I'm doing everything I should be as per the original reason my LtdCo was hired...

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  • BlasterBates
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    Absolutely say nothing, this isn't your problem.

    Only reply direct to any criticism, otherwise just let this blow over your head.

    When everyone leaves left right and centre everyone knows the Proect management has f***ed up, no sense in stating the blindingly obvious.

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  • JamJarST
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    Originally posted by Sid View Post
    Permies in my project are resigning left, right and centre and those who are left behind have no idea what they have to do. Ultimately, it will always be the contractor who has 'goofed up'. I have all the ammunition with me to strike early and present the facts and figures of my work to the management....or should I wait for the blame game to start in a couple of months when the project turns tulip...?
    Why don't you do what you were contracted to do and stop playing politics like a permanent employee?

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  • ITconsulting
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    management don't care - contractors

    will be fired if project fails.
    If they have large budget tell them only if you are critical to the project.

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  • BolshieBastard
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    Originally posted by Sid View Post
    Permies in my project are resigning left, right and centre and those who are left behind have no idea what they have to do. Ultimately, it will always be the contractor who has 'goofed up'. I have all the ammunition with me to strike early and present the facts and figures of my work to the management....or should I wait for the blame game to start in a couple of months when the project turns tulip...?
    Keep calm and carry on invoicing.

    Originally posted by escapeUK View Post
    No, you should tell management what the problems are and your plan for pulling it back together.
    LOL! Yep, that'll work.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by escapeUK View Post
    No, you should tell management what the problems are and your plan for pulling it back together.
    WES - also when you tell them make sure you have also put it in a document which you also bcc'ed to your ltd company email account.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Wait for the Blame Storming session.

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  • escapeUK
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    No, you should tell management what the problems are and your plan for pulling it back together.

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  • Sid
    started a topic Strike early or wait for blame game to start?

    Strike early or wait for blame game to start?

    Permies in my project are resigning left, right and centre and those who are left behind have no idea what they have to do. Ultimately, it will always be the contractor who has 'goofed up'. I have all the ammunition with me to strike early and present the facts and figures of my work to the management....or should I wait for the blame game to start in a couple of months when the project turns tulip...?

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