Reply to: DV Clearance has anyone recently been through it need advice please!!!

[Mr.Whippy]

I'm talking 10k total, for me it's sounds a lot in my 80's mind but maybe now it's not?...

Is it a lot? If it was 10k on a new conservatory, no. If it was 10k on lapdancers and Jaegerbomb's, then probably

Seriously, doesnt sound like it'd be an issue if you got the money to pay it off.

[Mr.Whippy]

Having it in the past doesn't seem to be doing me any favours when applying for current roles despite being no risk, just goes to show the rules about insisting on current clearance are still being ignored.

I expect the troubles that the new Cerberus system is having is making the problem worse... people are even less willing than they used to be to accept non-cleared people now because it's take 6+ months for SC for some people

[gingerjedi]

It's supposed to expire when you leave but in reality it can be resurrected if its within 6 months.

Having it in the past doesn't seem to be doing me any favours when applying for current roles despite being no risk, just goes to show the rules about insisting on current clearance are still being ignored.

[stek]

Generally DV expires as soon as you leave the role.

Don't know about the depression issues but I do know that for DV they can be *very* touchy about large debts and/or financial issues.

As for your how any of that would affect any application you make, who knows? There is only one way to find out for sure

cheers but re: debt I can pay all off now if I wanted by DV time, just choose not to ATM for cash-flow reasons!

I'm talking 10k total, for me it's sounds a lot in my 80's mind but maybe now it's not?...

Thanks!

[Mr.Whippy]

And is DV subject to the same time-expire rules as SC?

Generally DV expires as soon as you leave the role.

Don't know about the depression issues but I do know that for DV they can be *very* touchy about large debts and/or financial issues.

As for your how any of that would affect any application you make, who knows? There is only one way to find out for sure

[stek]

I'm in negs with a let's say 'large' organisation, wanting me to fill a role with a Gov agency. Rate is great, best over and 33% better than current (London role tho) - my current SC with be fine for the first six months but I will be needed after that deeper down the pile and will need to be DV'd, which they will do.

I think i had PV before for a Nuclear role I had, not sure I was ambivilous (spell?) to contracting then, just took each day as it came. Wish I could do that now! Anyway, I've never had any crime stuff, never done any drugs, apart from beer, had a few debt probe in the past but nothing current apart from a credit card bill which I chose not tho pay off for now for various reasons (but could by the DV time) and a tax bill due to me going LLP and getting shafted a bit (my own fault - it's in the search here), made arrangement with HRMC and that will be paid off very soon, if not now, must check....

My biggest worry is I suffered 2001-2002 with quite bad depression and whilst I wasn't suicidal or anything, I just didn't care much what happened to me - I'm just a bit worried some record may exist - I certainly remember the Sheriffs coming round (this was Scotland - read bailiffs) and distressing everything. Never came of it, sorted out the distress and nothing legal happened but the point is at the time I didn't really care so something might be there. I'll tell all anyway.

Well, worth a punt? DV might see me set for a while, but I'm a bit worried going out on a limb and not getting the DV. In a any case six months on SC is quite lucrative...

And is DV subject to the same time-expire rules as SC?

stek bares his soul!

[TheFaQQer]

So forward it to the Cabinet office at
vettinggroup@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk
Every little helps.

Already ahead of you on that one

[malvolio]

I had another "you must be cleared to apply for this role" email this week

So forward it to the Cabinet office at
vettinggroup@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk
Every little helps.

[Normie]

My advice if you are offered DV grab it and make sure you never loose it, can cause all sorts of issues if you do not have any clearance.

Hope I have not put a downer on your future exploits I have to say in 6 years contracting the past 4 months is the only time I have been out of work.

I agree. If you live in the west country (ish) the DV gravy train is hard to beat - 10 years and counting - no time between contracts (touch wood).

One of the few parts of IT that is fairly bob resistant.

[TheFaQQer]

Thus gving lie to the agencies' constant assertion that you have to have active clearance to work in a secure role. Which is what I've been saying for the last 11 years...

Incidetnally DVA's SLA for SC is 30 days for 85% of cases, and two weeks for accelerated. Don't believe a word of it, mine took five months.

I had another "you must be cleared to apply for this role" email this week

[malvolio]

, I am now 5 weeks into the role and still waiting for a "Priority" SC Clearance after submitting the forms online 5 weeks ago.

Thus gving lie to the agencies' constant assertion that you have to have active clearance to work in a secure role. Which is what I've been saying for the last 11 years...

Incidetnally DVA's SLA for SC is 30 days for 85% of cases, and two weeks for accelerated. Don't believe a word of it, mine took five months.

[scalyback]

DV

I had DV clearance from 1987 while in the Army, I worked in a couple of units that give me extra clearance on top and when I moved to the contract world on leaving the Army I kept my DV clearance, in the 6 years since I have managed to keep hold of it up until this year when my contract end coincided with my DV renewal.

What I did not expect was for my former employer (HP in a contract role) to get my SC clearance cancelled at the same time after 4 months of trying to get work as a DV contractor it was not until I took up my present role that I found the above out, I am now 5 weeks into the role and still waiting for a "Priority" SC Clearance after submitting the forms online 5 weeks ago.


My advice if you are offered DV grab it and make sure you never loose it, can cause all sorts of issues if you do not have any clearance.

Hope I have not put a downer on your future exploits I have to say in 6 years contracting the past 4 months is the only time I have been out of work.


Dave
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[BolshieBastard]

Exemption from what exactly?

Spent convictions. Normally, people dont have to declare spent convictions. However, G4S (and I supose some other companies) have exemption from this. Potential employees should declare spent convictions since G4S have regulatory exemption from the spent convictions legislation \ statute.

If a potential employee doesnt declare any spent convictions which G4S later find out, they can dismiss the employee forthwith.

[DanielAnthony]

Most the people doing the DV interviews are ex-coppers. I think after a few decades grilling hardened criminals they should be able to tell when some IT geek is trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

Just tell the truth and you will be fine.

[Mr.Whippy]

Make your mind up, one minute you have to tell them who they are and now they are clever enough to find out by using every trick in the book. lol

You think you have to tell them who your friends are because they don't know or cant find out?

You think you have to tell them all about your financial dealings, where you work/have worked, who your family are, where you went to school, how much you spend on your weekly shop, that you got done for smoking pot when you were 19 etc because they don't know or cant find out?

No of course not, it's all a test.... a test of your honesty and integrity and to make sure that you're not a bulltulipting liability/criminal that isn't suitable to handle TOP SECRET material.

(ps. I said they'll know every trick in the book that people have used to try and hide stuff, not every trick in the book to find out stuff about you)