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Originally posted by monkeyrhythm View PostThis was my point, in situations where there are a number of similar candidates I think many of us would be happy giving the agent a differentiating bung and I'm sure a number of agents would be happy accepting it; the difficulty is more in broaching the subject in the first place.
I simply suggested the plasma as an expensive 'gift' maybe more palatable than cold hard cash as arguably it has a bit more plausable deniability.
I've never done it myself, I'm just curious to know if anyone has (it's a fair point that people may not be happy to own up to it though).
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This was my point, in situations where there are a number of similar candidates I think many of us would be happy giving the agent a differentiating bung and I'm sure a number of agents would be happy accepting it; the difficulty is more in broaching the subject in the first place.
I simply suggested the plasma as an expensive 'gift' maybe more palatable than cold hard cash as arguably it has a bit more plausable deniability.
I've never done it myself, I'm just curious to know if anyone has (it's a fair point that people may not be happy to own up to it though).
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostEven though contractors tend to not think much about agents I would hope tlike to think that most of them are beyond taking bribes for work! Send him a bottle of wine, thank you cigar and keep him sweet maybe, be a good contractor for him, solid earner with no crap and he will come for you. Giving them a bung for a job I would think is just a total waste of time.
2) Given that I've been ignored for jobs I'm perfect for, I'd have no qualms about doing it. And if I were an agent under financial pressure, I'm sure I'd be tempted by some tax free loot, especially if all the candidates were of a similar quality anyway.
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Originally posted by CheeseSlice View PostBut how would that work for an IT contractor?
"Hey, give me the contract and I'll fix your pc and install Mcafee Antivirus for free?"
I think hard cash is more likely to work.
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Originally posted by monkeyrhythm View PostAnyone ever given a more traditional back-hander to an agent? e.g. if I get the job I'll send you a 'spare' plasma I got as part of a deal with a disti....
This may come across as though I'm trolling but it's a serious question; I've spent a good chunk of time in and around resellers/solution providers and this a more common sales tactic than one might think - it wouldn't surprise me to learn agents could be receptive to this too.
"Hey, give me the contract and I'll fix your pc and install Mcafee Antivirus for free?"
I think hard cash is more likely to work.
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Anyone ever given a more traditional back-hander to an agent? e.g. if I get the job I'll send you a 'spare' plasma I got as part of a deal with a disti....
This may come across as though I'm trolling but it's a serious question; I've spent a good chunk of time in and around resellers/solution providers and this a more common sales tactic than one might think - it wouldn't surprise me to learn agents could be receptive to this too.
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Originally posted by XperTest View PostYour other proposed USP (going in below average market rate) carries more weight as most if not all companies will be very cost conscious at the moment. Get a contract at a lower than average rate, prove your worth than negotiate at contract extension time. Not sure how you can influence the take the agent gets however, so this may only be a viable approach when the agent is on a fixed fee and has been instructed to consider cost over quality (which is quite common given the current state of the market).
Negotiating a lower rate to increase the return for the agent is ok. Here mate I will give you 5% if you get me the job isn't.
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I think you fail to see that being available to start quickly/immediately is not a differentiating quality in this market, where there will be dozens of candidates for each role, most of whom will be benched and ready to start on very short notice if needed. As a contractor, there is not much you can do to speed up the decision making process at the client, so the same rules will apply to you that do to all your competitors.
Your other proposed USP (going in below average market rate) carries more weight as most if not all companies will be very cost conscious at the moment. Get a contract at a lower than average rate, prove your worth than negotiate at contract extension time. Not sure how you can influence the take the agent gets however, so this may only be a viable approach when the agent is on a fixed fee and has been instructed to consider cost over quality (which is quite common given the current state of the market).
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Short contracts -good idea.
Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostOP
Are you getting confused between 'quickly' or short-term?
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I spent a year or so doing 'short-term'. ie. Always available next day, location no problem, 2/3/4 days , 1-2 weeks etc. I had a reputation for it with a number of agents and would get phonecalls.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what you are really asking.
How would I search for them? In my work area a short contract is usually meant to be extended if they are happy with you.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostI've had it more than once.
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Originally posted by Saddo View PostIt doesn't stop the agents wanting to know if you could start tomorrow.
I've been contracting for years and there hasn't been a single occasion where the gap between initial call, interview and start date has been within a week. Most times it is up to 2 weeks.
I've had it more than once.
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Originally posted by Aman View PostIf you want no fuss, no questions asked immediate start then it isn't going to happen in IT
I've been contracting for years and there hasn't been a single occasion where the gap between initial call, interview and start date has been within a week. Most times it is up to 2 weeks.
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