Reply to: Security clearance!!!

[The Wikir Man]

SC is 'Security Check' tho - not 'Secret' - looks a bit amateurish to me...

Well, SC allows routine access to Secret categorised documents (and occasional access to TS as well).

[stek]

SHSL are a List X company and have the ability to check, retain and reclear candidate security clearances from Baseline Standard (BS) through to Secret (SC).

SC is 'Security Check' tho - not 'Secret' - looks a bit amateurish to me...

[malvolio]

Re-clear, not Clear.

Clearance goes with the role. No role, no clearance. They're being economical with the truth.

[gingerjedi]

Yes I know the answer


Utter rubbish - this agency is not Listx

https://www.shsl.co.uk/AboutUs.aspx

Near the bottom...

SHSL are a List X company and have the ability to check, retain and reclear candidate security clearances from Baseline Standard (BS) through to Secret (SC).

They seem to think they are? Sounds like a dodgy thing to do though.

[PinkPoshRat]

I've been told SHSL (agency) will allow you to get SC clearance through them for £90 (you pay) and then when a job comes up you can apply for it through them with your SHSL held clearance.

Is there anyone else who can confirm this ?

Yes I know the answer


Utter rubbish - this agency is not Listx

[bobspud]

And here's another ******* one! Damn funny they are all 'must have SC as its an asap start.'

Yeah ******* right.

Test Analyst- - MUST HAVE CURRENT SC SECURITY CLEARANCE

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Test Analyst- - MUST HAVE CURRENT SC SECURITY CLEARANCE My client, an IT Services Provider require a Test Analyst specialist to work for them on site at a client's site. Main responsibilities: * Implement Windows 2003 Server based solutions - hardware and software. * Implement Windows XP and Office 2003-based UAD (Desktop, Laptop and PDA) solutions - hardware and software. * Implement COTS products on Servers For any implemented hardware and software, performing the following activities to timescales and constraints communicated by the team leader: * Reviewing Requirements and Design Documents to determine the scope of testing. * Produce a Test Plan, scoping the testing to be performed at a high level. * Create Test Scripts, using Test Director, to implement that Test Plan. * Create Crib Sheets * Manually run/evidence such scripts. Qualifications: Key Essential Technical Skills * Strong testing experience (planning & execution) * Windows 2003 Server experience. * Windows XP SP2 & Office 2003. * Mercury TestDirector/QualityCenter. Key non-technical skills * Able to produce high quality, clear technical documentation * Comfortable with having own work peer reviewed * Good communication skills * Hold or be capable/willing to gain security clearance. Desirable skills * Knowledge of AD/GPOs/security clampdowns. * Test Automation especially WINRUNNER/QTP. Additional Deliverables * Low Level Design Documents * Implementation of Test Harness solutions * Implementation of Operational [view full job]

Applicants must be eligible to work in the specified location

Start Date: ASAP
Duration: 6 months +
Advertiser: Gibbs S3
Business Type: Employment Business
Contact: David Salman

You can thank the security department for this. They have clamped down on having BC cleared people on site. It used to be possible to get your BC and get cleared to SC/DV while you worked. But that was stopped last year. So now they are stuck with asking for SC as a minimum or finding canditates that can afford to wait until they are cleared before they step on site which is really not practical.

[BolshieBastard]

And here's another ******* one! Damn funny they are all 'must have SC as its an asap start.'

Yeah ******* right.

Test Analyst- - MUST HAVE CURRENT SC SECURITY CLEARANCE

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Test Analyst- - MUST HAVE CURRENT SC SECURITY CLEARANCE My client, an IT Services Provider require a Test Analyst specialist to work for them on site at a client's site. Main responsibilities: * Implement Windows 2003 Server based solutions - hardware and software. * Implement Windows XP and Office 2003-based UAD (Desktop, Laptop and PDA) solutions - hardware and software. * Implement COTS products on Servers For any implemented hardware and software, performing the following activities to timescales and constraints communicated by the team leader: * Reviewing Requirements and Design Documents to determine the scope of testing. * Produce a Test Plan, scoping the testing to be performed at a high level. * Create Test Scripts, using Test Director, to implement that Test Plan. * Create Crib Sheets * Manually run/evidence such scripts. Qualifications: Key Essential Technical Skills * Strong testing experience (planning & execution) * Windows 2003 Server experience. * Windows XP SP2 & Office 2003. * Mercury TestDirector/QualityCenter. Key non-technical skills * Able to produce high quality, clear technical documentation * Comfortable with having own work peer reviewed * Good communication skills * Hold or be capable/willing to gain security clearance. Desirable skills * Knowledge of AD/GPOs/security clampdowns. * Test Automation especially WINRUNNER/QTP. Additional Deliverables * Low Level Design Documents * Implementation of Test Harness solutions * Implementation of Operational [view full job]

Applicants must be eligible to work in the specified location

Start Date: ASAP
Duration: 6 months +
Advertiser: Gibbs S3
Business Type: Employment Business
Contact: David Salman

[Churchill]

Yeah, that would be the myth put out and perpetuated by agents especially and clients in particular that if you dont have current SC, dont apply \ waste our time \ we wont consider you no matter how strong your cv is?

Our lot were first put through a basic check - done by the company.

Then came the CTC - done by those nice vetting chaps.

Then came SC - do again by those nice vetting chaps.

3 sets of bloody forms!

Oh well.

[malvolio]

Put it this way. In my last cleared role, I put together a strategic plan for when the programme went live. 18 months later, when they needed someone to put that plan into action, I wasn't allowed to apply for the job because my clearance had lapsed. Go figure...

[BolshieBastard]

That includes me, remember...


What continues to fascinate me is the perpetuation of the myth you need clearance to be on site, even from people who cliam to be cleared and hence, one hopes, understand the rules they've signed up to.

You don't.

Therefore most of the arguemnt about why clearance is needed up front evaporates in a puff of blue smoke.

Yeah, that would be the myth put out and perpetuated by agents especially and clients in particular that if you dont have current SC, dont apply \ waste our time \ we wont consider you no matter how strong your cv is?

[TheFaQQer]

What continues to fascinate me is the perpetuation of the myth you need clearance to be on site, even from people who cliam to be cleared and hence, one hopes, understand the rules they've signed up to.

You don't.

Therefore most of the arguemnt about why clearance is needed up front evaporates in a puff of blue smoke.

One client I worked with wouldn't give you an account to log into until you were cleared.

Relationship was me > agency > consultancy > client

Client said that I could go on-site and use one of their generic logins; consultancy said that if they got done for a security breach they got fined £1million each time.

I didn't go on-site until I was cleared, as there was no point in being there with no login.

[SuperZ]

That includes me, remember...


What continues to fascinate me is the perpetuation of the myth you need clearance to be on site, even from people who cliam to be cleared and hence, one hopes, understand the rules they've signed up to.

You don't.

Therefore most of the arguemnt about why clearance is needed up front evaporates in a puff of blue smoke.

I don't think people are saying that, but clients don't want you on site without it. It can be difficult to organise and generally uneconomical to escort someone for 6-12 weeks (including toilet breaks/fag breaks etc).

Done it myself before, 8 hours sitting reading books in a server room keeping an eye on someone. 2x daily rate for one man to do his job. Then when they arrived late another time the timeslot to collect had gone so had to wait an hour at reception until an escort came along.

I don't care what the guidelines say, for many reasons I can understand why clients don't want people on site until cleared, not being able to access IT systems is one of them.

[malvolio]

Oy!!

That includes me, remember...


What continues to fascinate me is the perpetuation of the myth you need clearance to be on site, even from people who cliam to be cleared and hence, one hopes, understand the rules they've signed up to.

You don't.

Therefore most of the arguemnt about why clearance is needed up front evaporates in a puff of blue smoke.

[ratewhore]

...recycling the same old tired faces has been noted...

Oy!!

[TheFaQQer]

You got lucky - I've seen SC clearance take 90 days easily.

85% of SC clearances are completed within 30 calendar days.

That said - I waited 5 1/2 months for my second SC to come through (luckily I could work on consultancy site rather than client site), and 9 weeks for them to transfer it from one department to another for the next gig.