SC Clearance Again...

[SuperZ]

Apparently I have been cleared for 10 years and I was a contractor at the time.

So for instance say you are cleared and the dva hold your clearance but you haven't been in a cleared role for a year, would it still be possible to point the agent of the new role to the dva to confirm the clearance.

If you're still within the original time frame of 5 or 10 years the DVA could confirm the clearance, why wouldn't this approach work?

Maybe that would work who knows, but it shouldn`t though, it lapses 12 months after your last SC role where the clearance was transfered. People I`ve come across with the clearance state security controllers always want to trace the last holder of the clearance. If all security contollers had to do was confirm via the DVA, they`d all be just doing that to keep it simple. A friend had issues where the last holder of the clearance wasn`t easily found (as it was mistakenly not transfered by a previous client). If it was not found it would have been deemed invalid, but if all the new company had to do was to contact the DVA why didn`t they do that?

I still think their would be an issue where DVA say "Yes" and new client finds out it hasn`t been used for 12 months and say "No"

If for example you hadn`t been in a verifiable cleared position for 2 years, you might have been abroad at a Binny Boy training camp.

[digerido]

Apparently I have been cleared for 10 years and I was a contractor at the time.

So for instance say you are cleared and the dva hold your clearance but you haven't been in a cleared role for a year, would it still be possible to point the agent of the new role to the dva to confirm the clearance.

If you're still within the original time frame of 5 or 10 years the DVA could confirm the clearance, why wouldn't this approach work?

[TykeMerc]

Ah, so freelancers & permies of contracted companies get 5, permy civil servants get 10... got ya, that'll be why I got 5 then

Actually not always, I know plenty of permie non civil servants (defence contractor permies) with 10 year clearance and 2 contractors who got 10 year clearances (I saw the letters).

What it means is the DVA are known to cock things up on occasion, I'd be willing to bet your was a similar screw up Mr. Whippy.

[Mr.Whippy]

Well there you go then. As far as MOD is concerned you were a contractor. Only Civil Servants get 10 year clerance.

Ah, so freelancers & permies of contracted companies get 5, permy civil servants get 10... got ya, that'll be why I got 5 then

[malvolio]

Well there you go then. As far as MOD is concerned you were a contractor. Only Civil Servants get 10 year clerance.

[Mr.Whippy]

No chance the role was only sanctioned and funded for five years then....?

Nope, I was working for a company that were delivering a government project and contracted to until at least 2012. This was back in 2005.

[malvolio]

Not so. I had SC once as a permy, which was only granted for a 5 year period.

No chance the role was only sanctioned and funded for five years then....?

[digerido]

Thanks for the replies.

That's the part I do not understand. The agent who made me aware of the situation just asked the security controller at the company with the role to contact the DVA, they did and have now confirmed I am cleared - no problems. I appreciate what you are stating though.

Also the bpss forms are just site specific so do not confirm if I am cleared or not, the dva confirm the clearance, I think any way...

Complicated isn`t it.
It does expire after a year.
DVA might not necessarily know if it is valid or not. If for example you leave company X, does that get registered with the DVA? I don`t think so. The security controller of the next company you work for will determine if the clearance is valid or not....if over 12 months since you left company x it`s not.
There`s a reason Security Controllers need to track which company your clearance was last at and when you left, otherwise they`d all just contact the DVA to confirm the clearance wouldn`t they?

I suspect in your case your clearance has been deemed to now be invalid even if the DVA have a record of the clearance being granted for 10 years.

[Mr.Whippy]

Clearance is for 5 years for freelancers, ten for permies

Not so. I had SC once as a permy, which was only granted for a 5 year period.

[SuperZ]

Hi, two questions to save starting another thread.

Thanks,

Complicated isn`t it.
It does expire after a year.
DVA might not necessarily know if it is valid or not. If for example you leave company X, does that get registered with the DVA? I don`t think so. The security controller of the next company you work for will determine if the clearance is valid or not....if over 12 months since you left company x it`s not.
There`s a reason Security Controllers need to track which company your clearance was last at and when you left, otherwise they`d all just contact the DVA to confirm the clearance wouldn`t they?

I suspect in your case your clearance has been deemed to now be invalid even if the DVA have a record of the clearance being granted for 10 years.

[malvolio]

I should ask DVA for advice, tbh, so you ete the right answer in writing

Clearance is for 5 years for freelancers, ten for permies, after which time you have to be re-cleared - but that assumes you are continuallky in a role needing clearance. However, move to a role that doesn't and your clearance will lapse after one year (for SC, it's different for other levels).

Also, while we're on the subject, it's the role that drives the clearance, not the person. Clearance is always linked to a specific role.

[digerido]

Hi, two questions to save starting another thread.

It has come to my attention that the security controller at the previous company I worked for has been stating to other security controllers that I do not hold valid sc clearance any more. Therefore possible job leads going cold instantly.

The DVA have confirmed this is not the case and the so called issue here is because the previous company did not receive my bpss forms so stating my clearance has expired. Though I did complete these forms and hand them in.

I only found this out as an agent called me back and explained the situation.

Do I have any come back with this or should I just move on and in future just state my clearance is with the DVA and ask companies to get confirmation from them?

Also during this situation I found out I have been cleared for 10 years but I was under the impression that the clearance expires if you don't use it for more than a year. Is this true?

Thanks,