Reply to: I wonder if there's a blacklist out there

[Toastiness]

"...you need a proper medical doctor to sign it as well, not just a psychiatrist.

Psychiatrists are proper doctors. Not to be confused with psychologists or psychotherapists who don't need a medical degreee to practice.

[RichardCranium]

I bet they're really interested in some of the stuff posted on here then...

What everyone else says: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you".

What we say: "We're paranoid because we were involved in the writing of the systems that gather the evidence from Internet fora ..."

[RichardCranium]

Not any more.

A doctor and a suitably qualified social worker can section someone in "an emergency". (My brother-in-law earns nicely from night-time call-outs to the cop shop). The term "emergency" seems to mean "when you've been picked up by the rozzers".

But that does only get you locked up for 72 hours before you have to be assessed properly.

[minestrone]

This is the kind of thing that I meant when I said:



The Fixated Threat Assessment Centre

Forward Intelligence Teams

The Territorial Support Group


I'd best be off now.

"psychiatrists operate above the law. They can detain ANYONE AT ANY TIME AND FOR NO MORE REASON THAN THEIR STATED OPINION THAT THE PERSON MAY BE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS"

Is that not a good thing?

And it is factually incorrect, you need 2 people to section someone so it should have read "THAN THEIR STATED OPINIONS". I also think, not quite totally sure, you need a proper medical doctor to sign it as well, not just a psychiatrist.

I believe that the periodic assessments are made by people who were not involved with the sectioning so it is not as if one person can come along and say "that man is mad" and then he can keep you locked up for as long as he wants as is painted by that link.

[expat]

This is the kind of thing that I meant when I said:

Is it my imagination, or are there more and more special bits of the police whose purpose is not to protect us but to protect the government?

The Fixated Threat Assessment Centre

Forward Intelligence Teams

The Territorial Support Group


I'd best be off now.

[expat]

I tulip you not.

It's far worse than anything you have written.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=10750

a member of the public, who wrote letters and emails calling the Home Secretary a communist and criticising her for creating a police state, has been summoned for an interview with his GP. The individual, who wishes to remain anonymous, informed the Column that he was recently surprised to receive a call from his GP asking him to attend the surgery.

Once in front of his doctor, Mr X was stunned to be told that the GP had received a letter from the highly secretive Fixated Threat Assessment Centre (FTAC) following instructions from the Home Secretary herself. Although embarrassed, the GP understood from the communication that he was required to interview Mr X to establish his ‘state of mind’.

The implications of this incident are extremely serious, as they suggest that anyone who dares to criticise the Home Secretary, or perhaps even the government itself, will be regarded as mentally ill. Clearly for Mr X, Smith’s actions were intended to be a warning and the first step in attempting to brand him mentally ill.

[HairyArsedBloke]

I thought you made that up.

I tulip you not.

It's far worse than anything you have written.

[EddieNambulous]

I say, steady on old chap - isn't "blacklist" a tad racist? I'm sure you can come up with a more PC term than that?

Yeah, those lists are quite a sensitive lot.

I suggest blackhashtable.

[RichardCranium]

WTF is going on in this country?

nuLieBore have already set up a police department to protect themselves called the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre.

I thought you made that up.

Hansard: "Since 2006, when FTAC began operation, 246 people have been detained under the Mental Health Act following a referral from FTAC and a subsequent decision by local health services. No individual has received a custodial sentence as a result of FTAC involvement."

"The Fixated Threat Assessment Centre was established in October 2006. Over the financial years 2006-07 and 2007-08, the Home Office provided a total of £507,262.21 as a contribution to the start-up and establishment of FTAC."

Psychology and Crime News Blog: "and one of the first attempts to use the draconian new detention powers given to FTCA was outside downing street. a special ops officer tried to section peace protestor barbara tucker who the government had failed to silence any other way.
her supposed suspect behaviour? wearing a large pink banner that reads ‘balir’s genocide’ with pictures of iraqi children maimed during the war."

Psychiatric News: "For years society casually turned a blind eye to the total lack of Human Rights for anyone labeled ‘mentally ill’, never dreaming that the definition might one day be widened sufficiently to cover not only themselves, but everyone who may for any reason be deemed a threat by those in authority."

Times: "The Mental Health Act requires two doctors or psychiatrists to approve a forcible detention, or “sectioning”, for treatment. It allows a patient to be held for up to six months before a further psychological assessment. The government is trying to amend the act, with a controversial bill introduced in November, to bring in a wider definition of mental disorder in order to give doctors more power to detain people. At least one terror suspect, allegedly linked to the 7/7 bomb plot and a suicide bombing in Israel, has already been held under the Mental Health Act. The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, absconded from the hospital where he was being detained and has never been traced. "

[expat]

nuLieBore have already set up a police department to protect themselves called the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre. They nick you and dump you at the local loonie bin with a note to never let you out. The doctors go along with it no questions asked. They also use it on political types they don't like since being found in the woods has been tumbled.

Copied straight from the USSR treatment of dissidents in the Cold War.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Worse thing is when the fantasy revenge thing takes you over. You know the thing - you're about to become bankrupt, lose your roof over your head - why not take out some of the b***ds (politicians, bankers, agents) who caused you to lose your livelihood, before you do yourself in. What do you mean, it's just me????

nuLieBore have already set up a police department to protect themselves called the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre. They nick you and dump you at the local loonie bin with a note to never let you out. The doctors go along with it no questions asked. They also use it on political types they don't like since being found in the woods has been tumbled.

[RichardCranium]

Am I cursed or what ?

You are not special; you are merely living in cursed times.

I know the PM market is flat, I know rates are down, I know all about phishing, ghost and repeat jobs, I know the pimps can pick and choose, but ....

So you really know already.

I phone 'em, they seem really keen

That's in their job description

, I apply and phone 'em again, suddenly not so keen.

That's because they found a perfect match and it wasn't you and now they have the emotional fallout to deal with. They're not counsellors so they don't let you down nicely.

I know there's nothing wrong with the CV, I know I've got the relevant experience and, obviously, I know I can do the job.

But someone else was a perfect match.

Not one nibble in over three months and I've tried everywhere (including strangely named countries in CIS and Africa).

Mmmmm, might just be paranoid or have I done something really bad in a previous contract that somehow has flagged my rather distinctive surname.

Wot? Dog?

Any pointers appreciated before I take the ultimat step

There is no blacklist. I know that because I have flamed and abused agents who needed it and three months later they're offering me a gig.

Just keep slogging away.

[rabiddog]

I say, steady on old chap - isn't "blacklist" a tad racist? I'm sure you can come up with a more PC term than that?

I'm open to suggestions (Can't use white, red, yellow, any religiuos term, any political term, any union term - ahhhh union term !!!!)

Let's call it a ......

'm/f colleague addendum with no disparity between regions, race, creed, ethnic background, color, ability, sexual inclination, not means tested list'

That's better, won't be understood and shouldn't cause offence ......

[MrMark]

Worse thing is when the fantasy revenge thing takes you over. You know the thing - you're about to become bankrupt, lose your roof over your head - why not take out some of the b***ds (politicians, bankers, agents) who caused you to lose your livelihood, before you do yourself in. What do you mean, it's just me????

Sirens heard near MrMark's house

[Mr Crosby]

Hang in there mate, I've just started a gig after 10 weeks on the bench the longest spell I've ever had there before was 2 weeks. Does send you mental though......