Reply to: Dodgy Agents - Time to fight back?

[Sausage Surprise]

I guess that you are right on the first point - you agents are not terably bright.


PZZ

PZZ

Is that an example of irony

[Sausage Surprise]

nothing will happen. the directors are generally wide boys which havent done a honest days work in their life.

post them a turd in a jiffy envelope; perferably a freshly laid dog one from the park

How tempting is that...

[minestrone]

I guess that you are right on the first point - you agents are not terably bright.


The other points - you jsut repeat what I have pointed out earlier in this and other threads.

BTW - I once considered going direct with a blue chip that do a 3Bn turnover, and the D&B report highlighted the fact that they had a best case of 61 days to settle their invoices and a worst case of 16 months! Ill leave you to guess if I kept the agency on to handle this or not!

PZZ

PZZ

Why don't you just return as AtW and then we can end all this pretence.

[pzz76077]

You build a network of contacts and be good at what you do. It's not hard.

Nothing special then....

PZZ

[pzz76077]

Remember agents are not terribly bright. I know I am one. We become agents because we are too thick to be lawyers, marketers, engineers or propeller heads. So when people like you come on to this site pretending to be an agent it is not hard for anyone with half a brain to see it. (the "blokesy laid back" chat gives it away)

What is more I would imagine that even in todays turmoil contractors are far more likely to get paid if they are direct than if going through an agency.

It doesnt take dynamite for brains to work out that most users of contractors are much bigger and much more established companies than recruitment agents. So trying to make an argument out of payment terms (I accept it may take longer with a "blue chip") is "pathetic"

I guess that you are right on the first point - you agents are not terably bright.


The other points - you jsut repeat what I have pointed out earlier in this and other threads.

BTW - I once considered going direct with a blue chip that do a 3Bn turnover, and the D&B report highlighted the fact that they had a best case of 61 days to settle their invoices and a worst case of 16 months! Ill leave you to guess if I kept the agency on to handle this or not!

PZZ

PZZ

[Another Dodgy Agent]

You are quite pathetic

Yep that would be a considered argument, well thought out, weighing up all sides of the argument and coming up with a conclusive if not quite consistent argument.


Good work DA, I would applaud you but cannot be bothered!

[Moscow Mule]

Can you tell us how you get your contracts without agents then??

PZZ

You build a network of contacts and be good at what you do. It's not hard.

[PM-Junkie]

Who's sockpuppet is this?

WHS...with bells on. This character was entertaining to begin with, but now it's just becoming annoying.

[DodgyAgent]

In what way, explain??

PZZ

Remember agents are not terribly bright. I know I am one. We become agents because we are too thick to be lawyers, marketers, engineers or propeller heads. So when people like you come on to this site pretending to be an agent it is not hard for anyone with half a brain to see it. (the "blokesy laid back" chat gives it away)

What is more I would imagine that even in todays turmoil contractors are far more likely to get paid if they are direct than if going through an agency.

It doesnt take dynamite for brains to work out that most users of contractors are much bigger and much more established companies than recruitment agents. So trying to make an argument out of payment terms (I accept it may take longer with a "blue chip") is "pathetic"

[pzz76077]

You are quite pathetic

In what way, explain??

PZZ

[pzz76077]

Who's sockpuppet is this?

Can you tell us how you get your contracts without agents then??

PZZ

[DodgyAgent]

Im surprised that Hays dont ask both the client and the contractor for money considering that their guy is now doing the role.

Hope the guy that went direct checked out end clients payment record before he took a leap of faith....

PZZ

You are quite pathetic

[minestrone]

You need to work with these people - how else are the majority of you going to get contracts without agents?? Off your own backs??


Phone them up, communicate, make sure they call you first when they do have a suitable contract...now you know the drill.

PZZ

Who's sockpuppet is this?

[pzz76077]

And then the majority of sensible post holders got absorbed with whether or not the Hays consultant was actually from Hays...

Could we assume for a moment that the Hays Consultant (cos thats where he/she/it came from) had an "in" with the hiring manager? He submitted said Contractor UK person CV to the hiring manager. Hiring manager really keen but then told that if he uses anyone outside the PSL then he will have his legs cut off, as will he's wife's and possibly their children's legs as well. Hiring manager weighs up potentiality for not being able to walk again and so decides not to hire through non PSL agent. Contractor UK person not happy and decides to deride on here. End of story.

Its business, the day you decide personally that it is more involved/complex than that is the day it becomes too much...

Im surprised that Hays dont ask both the client and the contractor for money considering that their guy is now doing the role.

Hope the guy that went direct checked out end clients payment record before he took a leap of faith....

PZZ

[Another Dodgy Agent]

And then the majority of sensible post holders got absorbed with whether or not the Hays consultant was actually from Hays...

Could we assume for a moment that the Hays Consultant (cos thats where he/she/it came from) had an "in" with the hiring manager? He submitted said Contractor UK person CV to the hiring manager. Hiring manager really keen but then told that if he uses anyone outside the PSL then he will have his legs cut off, as will he's wife's and possibly their children's legs as well. Hiring manager weighs up potentiality for not being able to walk again and so decides not to hire through non PSL agent. Contractor UK person not happy and decides to deride on here. End of story.

Its business, the day you decide personally that it is more involved/complex than that is the day it becomes too much...