Amsterdam coffee shops!
Did a year there back in '96 - at the stock exchange.
My colleagues were all too busy drinking those little glasses of Heinekin with the investment banking crowd to even notice my coffee breaks. My boss ( we were sharing a houseboat on Brauersgracht - some days I wondered if he was still alive when I left for work ) missed far more billable days than me.
Coffee in the morning on the way to work. Coffee at about 10:00 a.m., lunchtime, afternoon coffee and several coffee breaks for the late night bug-fixing.
Definitely some of my best quality coding ever ( I know it doesn't work that way for everyone )!
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LTD In the Netherlands
I am currently working in the Netherlands for an english LTD subcontracting to a dutch company and being payed through an umberella company.
On a new contract the dutch company has offered me a direct rate with them, however for this I would have to work through my own VAT registered LTD (which I have)
My hourly rate would effectively double, however I am unsure how I would need to operate in order to be compliant with the dutch tax system.
If anybody has any advice, or indeed an accountant with this area of expertise, i would be much obliged.
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Coffee shops indeed. A bit of personality dis-order & paranoia the next day is just the ticket to get through boring meetings...
Jokes aside, when I was there they had just passed the smoking ban legislation, so all those smoking had to be outside. Coffee shop owners were mightily hacked off - reckoned they would all be out of business by the end of the year.
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I've been in the Netherlands for 15 years and I've never been in a coffeeshop. Not my drug of choice; red wine for me.
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Originally posted by Elevator_Music View PostI worked in Amsterdam last year. Was when Euro 2008 was on and it was one of the best Summers of my life. Beers in Rembrant square after work, sunshine and plenty of tourist bars to make you think you were on holiday. ResultLast edited by ribble; 10 June 2009, 14:24.
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I worked in Amsterdam last year. Was when Euro 2008 was on and it was one of the best Summers of my life. Beers in Rembrant square after work, sunshine and plenty of tourist bars to make you think you were on holiday. Result
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Originally posted by XperTest View PostMmm, I know the market is bad, but I would personally not go below 60 for a non-junior test or dev role. For more senior roles (such as senior testmanagement) I still believe 75+ is achievable. Bear in mind taxes in Holland are probably higher than you are used to. There's plenty of information about working and taxation in Holland on this site, which I trust you'll be able to find.Last edited by Mich the Tester; 9 June 2009, 08:26.
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Mmm, I know the market is bad, but I would personally not go below 60 for a non-junior test or dev role. For more senior roles (such as senior testmanagement) I still believe 75+ is achievable. Bear in mind taxes in Holland are probably higher than you are used to. There's plenty of information about working and taxation in Holland on this site, which I trust you'll be able to find.
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Originally posted by XperTest View PostWhat field? 50 sounds a bit on the low side, even for these grim times..
If €50 is low, is €60 reasonable? I do know for a fact someone has already quoted €60 and been rejected on cost alone. The client has also rejected the option for flight and accomodation expenses to be included.
It's early days but at this stage others have gone in quoting the €40-€45 range so my rate is high in relation to these! It might not even get going for me on that basis.
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What field? 50 sounds a bit on the low side, even for these grim times..
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Netherlands
That ol' market rate..I might be able to extract EUR 50 p/h out of this if it comes off which is workable for me but I'm wondering if anyone knows a roundabout figure for market rate for a software developer in the euro zone at the moment? This particular contract is a bit niche but probably not so niche that it will push to +EUR 60 p/h.Tags: None
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