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Previously on "bitten twice by Nuisance permie reference...advice please"
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Originally posted by Darren_Test View Postby every incident of this sort I am loosing a client as well as an agency...!
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Thanks
Thanks guys..
good to get some valuable feedback from experience guys in this forum.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostCan't believe I'm reading all this stuff about contractors needing refs. I'll never give references, and never needed to. My interview bulltulip is enough. After all, contractors are easy to bin if they're crap.
Only permies need refs (and those are the meaningless HR type with dates only). Must be a sign of the desperate times.
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Originally posted by expat View PostWhen I had some mystery figure in the previous place who was badmouthing me, the problem wasn't that I couldn't get good references, I had those. The problem was that anyone who asked this guy about me would get a bad impression. I couldn't find out who it was so I couldn't fix it, and I couldn't leave him off my references because he wasn't on the list anyway.
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Originally posted by SBK1972 View PostHeadoftesting was spot on with his reply, and as much as it hurts to read it, a `still tongue keeps a wise head`. I wouldnt say a thing, I wouldnt ring up ex managers, as the last memory will now be of a bleating guy complaining about his reference.
Originally posted by SBK1972 View PostPerhaps its time to look at other clients, give this one a break, let the dust settle so to speak.
Originally posted by SBK1972 View PostI do feel sorry for you. Reference are easy, if truthful. Surely you must have friends that are high up in companies, that can give you references ?? This is what I do now if I need additional help.I hope it all works out for you.
SBK
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Originally posted by Ivor Bigun View Post"Depersonalisation" meets "Jealousy" meets "Tall Poppy Syndrome".
- Never outshine your boss and only do what you're asked to do...
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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostJust provide your agents as a reference, after all it was the agency that you had a contract with. Steer clear of HR and so called "managers".
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The agency reference is a good idea as they can verify you worked on a gig. If a paranoid client really wants more info on a contractor let them hire a private detective.
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Originally posted by Ardesco View PostJust provide your agents as a reference, after all it was the agency that you had a contract with. Steer clear of HR and so called "managers".
Jobs a goodun
I get a written reference from the agency when I finish. Saves alot of time. And once I asked for a reference 2 years later : they asked for £120 for the privelidge!
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View PostSo if you were offered a gig in the current climate and they insisted on references, and then withdrew the offer when you refused to give them, you'd be quite happy?
In any case, only a fool would ever give the name of someone, or a company that would possibly badmouth them. A bad reference is a whole lot worse than no reference.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostCan't believe I'm reading all this stuff about contractors needing refs. I'll never give references, and never needed to. My interview bulltulip is enough. After all, contractors are easy to bin if they're crap.
Only permies need refs (and those are the meaningless HR type with dates only). Must be a sign of the desperate times.
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Just provide your agents as a reference, after all it was the agency that you had a contract with. Steer clear of HR and so called "managers".
Jobs a goodun
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Can't believe I'm reading all this stuff about contractors needing refs. I'll never give references, and never needed to. My interview bulltulip is enough. After all, contractors are easy to bin if they're crap.
Only permies need refs (and those are the meaningless HR type with dates only). Must be a sign of the desperate times.
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Originally posted by expat View PostWhen I had some mystery figure in the previous place who was badmouthing me, the problem wasn't that I couldn't get good references, I had those. The problem was that anyone who asked this guy about me would get a bad impression. I couldn't find out who it was so I couldn't fix it, and I couldn't leave him off my references because he wasn't on the list anyway.
The IT Director was the most sadistic B*stard I have ever met (and I've met many since then). Some things he did were just evil; it shocked me at the time and it still makes me shiver - It was one of the best learning experiences I have ever had and made me realise that I should NEVER underestimate how twisted some people can be.
One guy had enough - He did a good job but was badly paid. The IT director didn't want him to leave (he was cheap, good and considered a core employee). IT director said he would give him a good ref and asked who he should send it to.
Well you can guess.... 3 weeks before he was to start, he was called by the agent to say the job was withdrawn. The poor guy had to ask for his job back.
How do I know what happened? his secretary who typed the letter, told everyone when she left under a cloud. By then the guy had left anyway.
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When I had some mystery figure in the previous place who was badmouthing me, the problem wasn't that I couldn't get good references, I had those. The problem was that anyone who asked this guy about me would get a bad impression. I couldn't find out who it was so I couldn't fix it, and I couldn't leave him off my references because he wasn't on the list anyway.
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