Reply to: Failed DVA Security Clearance

[pmeswani]

Are they subject to Data Protection Act and therefore a subject acceess request (or whatever it's called)?

People now apply to MI5 (although it can be refused on national security grounds).

I don't think this comes under the Data Protection Act as it can be argued that the information is being witheld in the interest of National Security.

[Old Greg]

Are they subject to Data Protection Act and therefore a subject acceess request (or whatever it's called)?

People now apply to MI5 (although it can be refused on national security grounds).

[NickNick]

*shudder*

[Turion]

To be honest, I would doubt that as the woman who sits next to me at work has just passed SC with previous convictions for posession of both dope and an offensive weapon.

Probably she thought you were trying to pull her, so just said that to keep you out of her way.

[NickNick]

To be honest, I would doubt that as the woman who sits next to me at work has just passed SC with previous convictions for posession of both dope and an offensive weapon.

[BolshieBastard]

When I was working for the Home Office on the CRB project, one contractor failed the security check because she'd been done for having some weed about 10 years previous.

[BrowneIssue]

I've just undergone security vetting (DVA) for the Ministry of Justice

DVA = Defence Vetting Agency. MoJ <> MoD.

which has failed now on 2 occasions.No details of the reason has been provided which means I can't undertake the agreed 6 month contract with them.

Quite right too, you dodgy bugger.

Has anyone or know of anyone who this has happened to in past

If you had been talking about DVA clearance - which you are not - then nobody would tell you.

any advice on how I can personally take this forward

Ask the client, the MoJ.

to establish where a mistake has taken place.

Es war ein mistake? Nein? Ich nur war der orders gefollowing.

P.S. I have contacted the DVA who have cross referenced my name and date of birth but this did not show a record of an application which would suggest that possibly another agency has vetted my application.

Duh! Defence Vetting Agency. The clue is in the name.

The whole thing is very confusing as I received clearance from Disclosure Scotland 4 weeks ago without any problems.

I got a library card without any problems. So what?

Any advice would e greatly appreciated.

Ask the client what they are up to.

I have now found out that the DV is being performed internally within the Ministry of Justice, Ive spoken with their security vetting team and apparently all applications are paper based so they could not tell me anything specific for my case but they did advise that if the application had failed it would be confined to the completion of the application itself as the criminal checks would not have been performed at this stage.

Well done.

The problem I have is not having any direct contact with the ministry itself everything must go through my agency and all i keep getting back is its failed but no-one can provide a reason which doesn't help me at all.

Maybe the agent is lying and they've placed someone who will accept a lower rate. That isn't so dodgy as you.



And don't worry about the record that's been made of you with Special Branch for hassling the DVA...

[Turion]

If you've had the application rejected very quickly that tends to imply they can't verify your identity or you haven't declared something like a criminal record that they could turn up very fast.

Move on and look for a new contract as there's nowt you can do if your Clearance is rejected.

= He's been a naughty boy and they know it. Shiit happens and even if you think you've managed to cover it up, somewhere down the line it'll re-surface and bite you in the @rse.

Come on - tell us what you did?????

[TykeMerc]

Are you sure this was DV or even SC clearance? DV takes upwards of 6 months (12 isn't rare) and SC usually takes a couple of months minimum, for that matter DV and SC clearances are done by the DVA not the Ministries.
Of course there's nothing to stop the Ministry doing its own checks, being the MoJ a criminal records check could be done very quickly as would the BC.

If you've had the application rejected very quickly that tends to imply they can't verify your identity or you haven't declared something like a criminal record that they could turn up very fast.

Move on and look for a new contract as there's nowt you can do if your Clearance is rejected.

[Churchill]

They can fail it for any reason they want to. Reasons for failure include the following:

• Forgot to tell them that you were out of the country at some point.
• Friend / Relative that was interviewed said something silly.
• You have a dodgy relative somewhere.
• You once did something naughty and didn't declare it.
• Your name matches the name of somebody dodgy and there is a miniscule chance you could be that person or have contact with that person.
• There is a gap in your history that they can't fill in and hence you wont be considered.

There are of course many other reasons as well.....

Time to give up and move on.

Or Threaded told you to try and blag it!!!

[Ardesco]

I have now found out that the DV is being performed internally within the Ministry of Justice, Ive spoken with their security vetting team and apparently all applications are paper based so they could not tell me anything specific for my case but they did advise that if the application had failed it would be confined to the completion of the application itself as the criminal checks would not have been performed at this stage.

The problem I have is not having any direct contact with the ministry itself everything must go through my agency and all i keep getting back is its failed but no-one can provide a reason which doesn't help me at all.

They can fail it for any reason they want to. Reasons for failure include the following:

• Forgot to tell them that you were out of the country at some point.
• Friend / Relative that was interviewed said something silly.
• You have a dodgy relative somewhere.
• You once did something naughty and didn't declare it.
• Your name matches the name of somebody dodgy and there is a miniscule chance you could be that person or have contact with that person.
• There is a gap in your history that they can't fill in and hence you wont be considered.

There are of course many other reasons as well.....

Time to give up and move on.

[Turion]

Time to move on and find a new contract. No point crying over spilt contracts.

WHS + hope that you did not waste to much time waiting for clearance instead of applying for other contracts.

[m1cah]

Time to move on and find a new contract. No point crying over spilt contracts.

Hmmm, I just want to find out the problem so it doesnt affect me in the future, I'm not one to leave things to chance as it tends to cause too many problems, cheers all the same

[pmeswani]

I have now found out that the DV is being performed internally within the Ministry of Justice, Ive spoken with their security vetting team and apparently all applications are paper based so they could not tell me anything specific for my case but they did advise that if the application had failed it would be confined to the completion of the application itself as the criminal checks would not have been performed at this stage.

The problem I have is not having any direct contact with the ministry itself everything must go through my agency and all i keep getting back is its failed but no-one can provide a reason which doesn't help me at all.

Time to move on and find a new contract. No point crying over spilt contracts.

[m1cah]

I have now found out that the DV is being performed internally within the Ministry of Justice, Ive spoken with their security vetting team and apparently all applications are paper based so they could not tell me anything specific for my case but they did advise that if the application had failed it would be confined to the completion of the application itself as the criminal checks would not have been performed at this stage.

The problem I have is not having any direct contact with the ministry itself everything must go through my agency and all i keep getting back is its failed but no-one can provide a reason which doesn't help me at all.