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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Do they let you use power tools there?
    They wouldn't let me play with the reactor for some reason

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    seen quite a few contracts recently requiring security clearence - have not applied for them cos I do not have it.

    so the question (to get to the damn point) How do you get security clearence?
    It's a bit of a Catch 22 situation getting Security Cleared.

    If you don't have SC or DV clearance odds are you won't get an interview let alone secure a role requiring it and to get clearance you have to be sponsored by a List X company or a Government Depeartment by having secured a role with them.

    The routes to getting clearance as a contractor are:-

    Have unique skills (one option is being cheaper than the competition) so that you get placed over cleared people and the hirer puts you through clearance. 3+ months for SC, 9-12 months for DV to come through, during the wait you have to be supervised closely in terms of access to Secret and Top Secret market material.

    Work on a project that doesn't need the clearance, impress the client sufficiently that they want you to stay on for Cleared work so they sponsor you.

    Go permy at a Ministry or List X company, obtain clearance, leave.

    Don't forget that Clearance has a shelf life. If you're not working in a Clearance required role for 12 months then it lapses plus Clearance is issued for a finite duration, it used to be 10 years fixed but that appears to have changed fairly recently so you can get a much shorter Clearance duration.

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  • original PM
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    strikes me that getting SC status is a bit of a catch 22...
    so it would seem - not that I am that interested in getting it but it is frustrating when you feel you can match the job requirmenets and do a good job but have not got SC.

    I suppose I should really punt my CV over there and tell them to call me if they cannot get anyone with relevant SC and put me through it (nothing to hide I think!)

    Not much chance in current climate though?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Diver View Post
    I had to have it to work on Nuclear power stations. They sent someone round to interview my family, previous employers and my Doctor.
    It took over a week, but that was back in the early nineties. don't know how they go about it now.
    Never been asked for SC since! I must be in the system.
    Do they let you use power tools there?

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  • Another Dodgy Agent
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    seen quite a few contracts recently requiring security clearence - have not applied for them cos I do not have it.

    so the question (to get to the damn point) How do you get security clearence?
    http://www.securityclearedjobs.com/h...ty_cleared.asp

    strikes me that getting SC status is a bit of a catch 22...

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    seen quite a few contracts recently requiring security clearence - have not applied for them cos I do not have it.

    so the question (to get to the damn point) How do you get security clearence?
    I had to have it to work on Nuclear power stations. They sent someone round to interview my family, previous employers and my Doctor.
    It took over a week, but that was back in the early nineties. don't know how they go about it now.
    Never been asked for SC since! I must be in the system.

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  • original PM
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    seen quite a few contracts recently requiring security clearence - have not applied for them cos I do not have it.

    so the question (to get to the damn point) How do you get security clearence?

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  • pmeswani
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    Originally posted by someone has my name View Post
    Ok I phoned about a gig advertised in Job serve.. (after sending my CV)...
    pimp says that I need high level sec clearance, and client asked not to mention it on the advert? isn't this illegal? ...
    Not illegal... against best practices outlined by the DVA. If you bear in mind that a lot of people with DV clearance will already be applying for the role (with all the relevant experience), the agency wants to make sure that the best candidates are being put forward. This is not to say that opportunities will not exist in the future for companies to sponsor you to undergo SC or DV clearance. As already stated, move on.

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  • someone has my name
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    Originally posted by Growernotashower View Post
    I went for a job as a long distance lorry driver, interview went really well, I know all the quickest routes to everywhere in the world and know how to drive a truck from practice on private roads, but I don't have a liceance. They said they need someone with a licence!!! I can could get one in a month or two but they said they already had people with the same skills with a licence. Is this Illegal?
    But to drive said lorry, you assume you need a licence, but to do a .net contract it is assumed you know the .net framework, not have a licence to kill Bond style.!

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  • Another Dodgy Agent
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Move on

    Could this be the worst "I could have got a gig but I didn't because of the agent" thread ever?

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  • Growernotashower
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    I went for a job as a long distance lorry driver, interview went really well, I know all the quickest routes to everywhere in the world and know how to drive a truck from practice on private roads, but I don't have a liceance. They said they need someone with a licence!!! I can could get one in a month or two but they said they already had people with the same skills with a licence. Is this Illegal?

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Move on
    WHS

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by someone has my name View Post
    Ok I phoned about a gig advertised in Job serve.. (after sending my CV)...
    pimp says that I need high level sec clearance, and client asked not to mention it on the advert? isn't this illegal? ...
    Move on

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  • NotAllThere
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    It's not according to the rules, but they're routinely broken all the time.

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  • someone has my name
    started a topic Illegal?

    Illegal?

    Ok I phoned about a gig advertised in Job serve.. (after sending my CV)...
    pimp says that I need high level sec clearance, and client asked not to mention it on the advert? isn't this illegal? ...

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