DOORS a tool for BAs

[Dow Jones]

Confused

That's a very good point, however the boundaries are constantly moving and for some reason a 'seamless' process is arguable, as you can be a C++ developer with no BA knowledge and go on to develop first-class code from a set of good requirements. Know nothing about DOORS but am familiar with UML and RUP but even those have limitations as they are more suited for OO languages.
I know there is more emphasis on users and 'the business' but not to the detriment of good coding and practices.

[bullseye]

Does a BA need to know all the malarchy about OO concepts? If yes, does it not mean that BA would be stepping into software engineer's area of work?

[bullseye]

DOORS isn't a drawing tool, it's a requirement management tool

WHS

[NickNick]

Nah, not missing the point, and it's hardly cutting edge stuff, DOORS has been around (and ignored) for years now.

[NickFitz]

Some random observations:

1. The first Google result for Dynamic Object Oriented Requirements System isn't actually the company that makes it but a company that sells services related to it, implying total fail in their ability to market themselves on the web

2. Their actual website for this product is a load of jargon-laden blurb and "reports" that seem to just be a load of management-speak pseudo-knowledge garbage

3. Surely object orientation is related to software implementation strategies, not Requirements Management. I for one can take a set of requirements and implement them using spaghetti code, procedural code, or object oriented code (and probably all three ) - the requirements have nothing to do with the implementation strategy.

Or am I missing the point, and this is yet another attempt to take a term that has meaning in an actual software development context, and misapply it to some tedious management process, so that the managers can delude themselves into believing that they are somehow "cutting edge" rather than a bunch of dreary unimaginative people whose job is not so much to do anything interesting as to, well, manage the interesting stuff?


(And yes, I am being excessively cynical for the sake of being annoying, before anybody takes me too seriously. It's still true, though.)

[scooterscot]

Gorden bennit remember a training course years ago on this...

Was like "this could do this in excel"

[SteveV]

DOORS isn't a drawing tool, it's a requirement management tool

[NickNick]

DOORS from Telelogic is a ropey old piece of work IMHO. Word, Excel Outlook and Visio offer better alternatives.

[Dow Jones]

Drawings

Another 'tool' for the BAs to blag and fool around. Just got my head around MagicDraw, probably suitable for 7-10 year olds. what's wrong with Visio etc? It wouldn't be so bad if the person that did the nice drawing understood the process, but 9/10 they don't. Am I right or not?

[Bluebird]

thanks

[The Lone Gunman]

Can anybody point me in the direction of any info about a "drawing" tool called DOORS - all I get from a google search is double glazing salesmen!

Ta.

Dynamic Object Oriented Requirements System.
Management of requirements to design. Provides traceability from customer to code if done properly.

Google DOORS Object Oriented Requirements and you will find a lot.

[Bluebird]

Can anybody point me in the direction of any info about a "drawing" tool called DOORS - all I get from a google search is double glazing salesmen!

Ta.