Reply to: MCSE's needed for overflow Consultancy work

[gables]

That could be said of any qualification.

I suppose a good way to get round word search type filters would be to put something like "working towards MCSE". That works on Ebay where sellers tend to put not in fron tof the brand name.

This is a good idea and technically true.

An agent asked for copies of my Oracle Certified Professional and Oracle Certified Expert qualifications this year.

Surprised, since the OCP wasn't relevant to the role at all, but if you opt into the agency regulations then they should be checking this kind of thing to make sure you are who you say you are.

I agree they should check especially if they're insisting on it for a role, it just seems daft if they don't.

[TheFaQQer]

As the agencies use it as a filter, it begs the question if anyone has ever been asked to show their MCSE certificate, either to the agent or client?

An agent asked for copies of my Oracle Certified Professional and Oracle Certified Expert qualifications this year.

Surprised, since the OCP wasn't relevant to the role at all, but if you opt into the agency regulations then they should be checking this kind of thing to make sure you are who you say you are.

[richard-af]

Certs.

I will be going for the Oracle Certified Master next year. Now there's a real test of ability, and will require genuine understanding of Oracle.

The Oracle Certified Professional cert: As meaningless as MS certs.

The braindump sites killed the meaningfulness of non-practical exams more than 10 years ago.

[crimdon]

As the agencies use it as a filter, it begs the question if anyone has ever been asked to show their MCSE certificate, either to the agent or client?

That could be said of any qualification.

I suppose a good way to get round word search type filters would be to put something like "working towards MCSE". That works on Ebay where sellers tend to put not in fron tof the brand name.

[Gonzo]

Er...

Strictly speaking accounts do not need to be filed yet because it is only two months since the end of the first financial year.

The annual return is a little overdue though.

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[TheFaQQer]

Do your accounts and f-off

[Epiphone]

As the agencies use it as a filter, it begs the question if anyone has ever been asked to show their MCSE certificate, either to the agent or client?

I have. The MCP site lets you setup a public viewable transcript which is handy for things like that.

[max]

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Do your accounts and f-off

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Good spotting

If you would like to be considered for ad-hoc flexible work representing our company with the highest professional standards, I would like to hear from you.

Real professional!

[Paddy]

Name & Registered Office:
OUTSIDE IT LTD
LITTLE STAPLEHURST
KINGS MILL LANE
REDHILL
RH1 5JX
Company No. 05813958


Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 11/05/2006

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied

Accounting Reference Date: 31/05
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 11/03/2008
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 08/06/2007 OVERDUE


Do your accounts and f-off

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[xodia]

[QUOTE=gables]It seems strange now to insist on it when the value of it has been diluted even further.
QUOTE]

exactally, the question will be if there that easy why dont you have one? assumtion - because you cant pass it

Wrong I know, but then these days it seems like the whole world needs fixing

[DimPrawn]

If I were hiring, I would not accept anyone without a fistful of current Microsoft certs.

After all, I would only want the best.

[gables]

I did get asked recently in an interview why I did not have any current Microsoft qualifications

When I was contracting I also never bothered to do the exams. This wasn't a problem as the agencies\clients didn't insist on it then. Funnily enough those with the certs didn't seem that good which I thought explained why agencies weren't that bothered and candidates were weeded out at the interview whether they had the cert or not. It seems strange now to insist on it when the value of it has been diluted even further.

However, as I'm trying to get my IT career restarted it seems that I'll have to do them just to get past the filter.

Ho hum.

[spoons]

I did get asked recently in an interview why I did not have any current Microsoft qualifications

[gables]

Seems to be only small consultancy companies that set any worth in a MCSE type qualification these days. Also agents seem to use them to filter the number of applicants.

As the agencies use it as a filter, it begs the question if anyone has ever been asked to show their MCSE certificate, either to the agent or client?

[xodia]

Seems to be only small consultancy companies that set any worth in a MCSE type qualification these days. Also agents seem to use them to filter the number of applicants.

So as I thought, tinsel on the tree, sparkles alot, but not much use