Reply to: Can I terminate my contract agreement due to office bullying?

[Bluebird]

I am 6 foot 1 and weigh 18 stone. Oh, and I am a double-hard bastard. If you want, I can call around and kick him in the stomach until his arse bleeds. For a fee, of course.

Would that come under IR35?

mmm, not to sure - you'd fail on client direction, although as long as you have right of substitution if your bottle goes you'll be fine

[angusglover]

Just do what I do.

Be a bigger bully and smack the mouthy git.

Thats how my last job ended....

Yep, lay him out cold in front of everyone...that outta do it!!!!

[shaeney]

I am 6 foot 1 and weigh 18 stone. Oh, and I am a double-hard bastard. If you want, I can call around and kick him in the stomach until his arse bleeds. For a fee, of course.

Would that come under IR35?

[NetwkSupport]

Why won't he bully you? With my amateur pop psychologist hat on, I'd say one or several of:
a) You stood up to him and he picks on those he sees as weak.
b) He doesn't want trouble off you in the last week.
c) There's no point bullying you now as you're leaving and he could more effectively focus his bullying on others.

Well done mate, you're well out of there.

Thanks mate, dont get me wrong im not feeling left out because im not being bulled...

either way it doesnt though matter eh, im outta here and into a "professional" outfit next week

[Old Greg]

I walked in his office in the end, shut the door and proceeded to tell him that i'm leaving this friday as I disagree with his management style, im not working 4 weeks notice and if he has any problems to say them now.

Funny enough he was nice as pie, i dont understand why he wont bully me but does everyone else, either:

a) he is a closet bender and fancies me
b) he is aware im a amateur boxer.
c) he has something up his sleeve.

anyway job done now, im set free this week to start my new contract next week

Why won't he bully you? With my amateur pop psychologist hat on, I'd say one or several of:
a) You stood up to him and he picks on those he sees as weak.
b) He doesn't want trouble off you in the last week.
c) There's no point bullying you now as you're leaving and he could more effectively focus his bullying on others.

Well done mate, you're well out of there.

[NetwkSupport]

I walked in his office in the end, shut the door and proceeded to tell him that i'm leaving this friday as I disagree with his management style, im not working 4 weeks notice and if he has any problems to say them now.

Funny enough he was nice as pie, i dont understand why he wont bully me but does everyone else, either:

a) he is a closet bender and fancies me
b) he is aware im a amateur boxer.
c) he has something up his sleeve.

anyway job done now, im set free this week to start my new contract next week

[Sockpuppet]

So you blackmailed them.

Blackmail is illegal.

Playing the sound clip saying "you know how bad this sounds...shame if this made it onto you tube."

Worked.

[cojak]

Nice one that man!

Amateurs...

[2uk]

Feck that. When I got fired....sorry I mean "compromise agreemented" out of my last permie job. They called a meeting in which the manager basically said "we want to hold a meeting insert some word> which means you cannot use this in a court of law. Then proceeded to tell me if i didnt leave they would find a reason to sack me."

Shame I had my mobile phone recording sound on the desk. Walked out with a little over £5k, two months pay and walked into contracting the day after

So you blackmailed them.

[Sockpuppet]

Feck that. When I got fired....sorry I mean "compromise agreemented" out of my last permie job. They called a meeting in which the manager basically said "we want to hold a meeting insert some word> which means you cannot use this in a court of law. Then proceeded to tell me if i didnt leave they would find a reason to sack me."

Shame I had my mobile phone recording sound on the desk. Walked out with a little over £5k, two months pay and walked into contracting the day after

[SizeZero]

You have a camera phone? Nothing like a bit of evidence in case it's ever needed.

[2uk]

But only if you're employed I expect (as opposed to contractor).

I wonder if the fact that someone can bully you and that you have no protection under the emplyoment act is a pointer that you are outside IR35.

Yeah , I guess the employment act doesn't apply to contractors.

[Sockpuppet]

Just do what I do.

Be a bigger bully and smack the mouthy git.

Thats how my last job ended....

[timh]

Talk to somebody higher up, or possibly HR (it's relevant to them to the extent that he's their problem employee, and that you're on-site).

In the past I had a similar problem and it was resolved by the arsehole in question being banned from talking to me, and me being able to do a lot of work off-site. Didn't need to go to the agency.

[Kyajae]

But only if you're employed I expect (as opposed to contractor).

I wonder if the fact that someone can bully you and that you have no protection under the emplyoment act is a pointer that you are outside IR35.

If you're a contractor, you can claim that the person's behaviour is prohibiting you from carrying out the work or your duties effectively and threaten to walk. If the agency has any balls, tey will be on the phone to the client pronto cuz if you walk, it costs the agency money.