Reply to: Declining a contract or cancelling an interview

[northernladuk]

I'll let the Gladiator do the talking.

[psychocandy]

At the risk of another "cool story bro" from NLUK heres a cautionary tale.

I had a local gig lined up once. Offered me on the phone and asked me to sort out notice period and let them know. Kept in touch while trying to sort out at current client. All done - agency then phoned me "sorry they started someone else last week - couldn't wait".

At no point had client said it was a problem or contacted me. Seem to have forgotten they'd offered it to me. **** knows.

Of course, stayed at current client but senior manager took offence that I'd tried to leave so they didnt renew month or two later.

Moral of the story - don't believe anyone until you're sat at the desk.

[northernladuk]

Thanks.
Unfortunately, the contract has been pulled at the very last minute, after compliance, clearance and presentation of the contract from the agent and just before starting. Everyone's sorry as apparently this almost never happens with this client. I've received two conflicting explanations as to why. So my reasonably long stint on the bench (since Jan) is set to continue - the other contracts are now filled so I've lost out completely.

Perhaps I underestimated the likelihood of this happening?

This is the most recent in a line of experiences that is suggesting to me that perhaps being upfront is not the best strategy and that's a real shame as I prefer open communication. Here's hoping that I've just had a run of bad luck.

It's most definitely part and parcel of contracting which is why we have a little saying that you don't have anything until you are sitting at the clients desk on day one. Don't stop applying for stuff until you are. Unfortunately you've found this out the hard way.

Did you sign the contract and when it got pulled and were you given notice? If the notice period you were given extended in to the time you were supposed to start you might be able to claim from the Business Interruption insurance on your IPSE+ insurance. Give them a bell to see if your situation is one they will cover. You don't get a lot but better than a kick in the teeth.

[man]

Let us know how it all works out, good luck with it all.

Thanks.
Unfortunately, the contract has been pulled at the very last minute, after compliance, clearance and presentation of the contract from the agent and just before starting. Everyone's sorry as apparently this almost never happens with this client. I've received two conflicting explanations as to why. So my reasonably long stint on the bench (since Jan) is set to continue - the other contracts are now filled so I've lost out completely.

Perhaps I underestimated the likelihood of this happening?

This is the most recent in a line of experiences that is suggesting to me that perhaps being upfront is not the best strategy and that's a real shame as I prefer open communication. Here's hoping that I've just had a run of bad luck.

[WordIsBond]

Went with this in the end, feel good about it.

Let us know how it all works out, good luck with it all.

[perplexed]

I'm on the bench and a large ex-client of mine has informed me (after one of those interviews where it appeared that I just needed to turn up) they'll be making an offer
The paperwork process has started but I haven't seen sight of the contract yet - there's not much chance the role will get canned but you never know.

I do however, have hiring manager interviews lined up with another couple of prospective clients over the next few days (1. Another large ex-client and 2. A moderate size consultancy I've never dealt with before).

As I haven't signed/seen a contract and the market hasn't felt at all lively this year I'm not feeling all that keen to shut down the other prospects and cancel the interviews etc by telling them about my incoming offer, but neither do I want them to feel strung along (partly because last time I turned down an offer from a prospective client post-interview, that same client refused my application when the role opened up again a few months or so down the line, so I'd clearly upset them by refusing).

So when do you tell the other agents involved with the other roles about incoming offers and essentially pull out from client interviews etc?

Until the deal is signed and delivered, ie you're providing service then you're on the market.

Client gets sniffy you turned them down before? Big deal - end of the day too many contractors seem to believe interviews are one way streets. Client may appear decent, something else comes along that's better then you'd be stupid to turn that down.

Go for as many interviews as you can, make the decision when you absolutely have to. Dealing with any "fallout" is part and parcel of the game.

[billybiro]

Just be up-front with them as to what's happening. That's what you'd want if you were in their situation.

Agents will spin you any old crap to keep you on the hook while you wait.

Hmm...

[man]

Just be up-front with them as to what's happening. That's what you'd want if you were in their situation. The Golden Rule is pretty good business practice, in the long run.

Went with this in the end, feel good about it.

And to clarify, it was my already-offering ex-client that I really wanted the contract with, it was jhat I could see a risk of it falling through and if so, knew I'd regret throwing the other opportunities away.

[washed up contractor]

I've now got the offer through by email (contract to follow). All the details are correct, and to be fair the agent running the gig has been communicating better than most.

So with the larger clients it usually takes a week or so from the offer until your bum is in the seat.

In the meantime, I'm likely to get another offer from at least one of these other contracts and it just doesn't feel right to accept an offer knowing that they aren't my choice.
Do you not find it burns bridges with both the client and agent if you accept an offer and then pull out? I know some of you help with contractor CV sifting, do you hold it against candidates that pulled out in the past?

If the offer you are looking to park for a week or so, while you consider other offers, is from the large ex client then yes, you could piss them off especially if you had the turn up, say your name and you've got the job type interview.

It's ok saying you are likely to get these other offers but is that the case? Agents will spin you any old crap to keep you on the hook while you wait.

Up to you whether you feel lucky. Well, do ya punk?!

[WordIsBond]

Just be up-front with them as to what's happening. That's what you'd want if you were in their situation. The Golden Rule is pretty good business practice, in the long run.

[northernladuk]

I've now got the offer through by email (contract to follow). All the details are correct, and to be fair the agent running the gig has been communicating better than most.

So with the larger clients it usually takes a week or so from the offer until your bum is in the seat.

In the meantime, I'm likely to get another offer from at least one of these other contracts and it just doesn't feel right to accept an offer knowing that they aren't my choice.
Do you not find it burns bridges with both the client and agent if you accept an offer and then pull out? I know some of you help with contractor CV sifting, do you hold it against candidates that pulled out in the past?

Tell them you accept pending a successful contract check. It can take up to a week for the likes of QDOS to check the contract so could give you a bit a breathing space. When you turn it down you've not technically breached but it won't mean the agent and client are any less pissed off with you.

[man]

I've now got the offer through by email (contract to follow). All the details are correct, and to be fair the agent running the gig has been communicating better than most.

So with the larger clients it usually takes a week or so from the offer until your bum is in the seat.

In the meantime, I'm likely to get another offer from at least one of these other contracts and it just doesn't feel right to accept an offer knowing that they aren't my choice.
Do you not find it burns bridges with both the client and agent if you accept an offer and then pull out? I know some of you help with contractor CV sifting, do you hold it against candidates that pulled out in the past?

[scoobs]

what i have experienced in my time it seems is with contractors, anything goes? i've had contracts offered, attended onboarding prior to start date and then the role has eventually been pulled.

how many of us have been left waiting when assured a role was a done deal and offer should be received next day. It's a running theme unfortuntaely. So until you have something concrete don't trust anyone.

[MrButton]

As mousey says.

The way the contracting is they should expect any candidate to be taken off the market at any minute. So if they get tulipty (they will. Especially agents) just ignore it.

If asked in an interview I usually say I’ve had a couple of other interviews in the last couple of days that have gone well. Regardless if it’s true or not.

[Anonimouse]

When your bum is on the seat