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If you are planning to focus on tech within testing, then you may need to decide whether its going to be Java or .NET. This is very important as you cannot do both.

I hate to break this to you, but you may have to learn them both and Python.

[Darren_Test]

Don't you think its going to be hard for a test management professional to learn both Java and C# in addition to learning Cucumber, Specflow etc?

Yes, not into hands on testing roles, so in depth knowledge of these may not be relevant. thanks

[Brummie]

Depends on how they got into IT.

I remember about 8 years ago when loads of people where training to be manual testers with no IT background what so ever. The training companies got rich...

There has been a lot of paradigm shift happened and will continue to happen. For instance, shift towards Componentization at front-end, SOA at middle, NoSQL at the back-end (to process semi-structured, unstructured data), from procedural to functional programming, distributed processing, DevOps, Cloud etc. It becomes way too harder for a non-techie, unless he/she are on top this ever changing phenomenon.

[Brummie]

There is something called customising your CV??
In my days when C# just appeared on the scenes.. they recruited Java programmers to do the C# programming...
Oh who remembers the endless threads we had of of Microsoft .Net vs Java ?? Milan??

Customising CV for a specific technology might help a bit but doesn't go far as they leave gaps between projects.

[SueEllen]

Don't you think its going to be hard for a test management professional to learn both Java and C# in addition to learning Cucumber, Specflow etc?

Depends on how they got into IT.

I remember about 8 years ago when loads of people where training to be manual testers with no IT background what so ever. The training companies got rich...

[SandyD]

Certainly it appears to be a binary option in my experience when focusing on tech side of testing. Enterprise application development revolves around these two technologies.

Agents have a habit denying/ignoring the possibility that one can excel in multiple unrelated technologies. It's really funny that they treat you as a Specialist when there is absence of tech and treat you as a non-specialist when you have both/multiple.

It becomes a waste of time and effort when our CV cannot get past the agents as they look at your previous gig and few gigs before that when filtering.

There is something called customising your CV??
In my days when C# just appeared on the scenes.. they recruited Java programmers to do the C# programming...
Oh who remembers the endless threads we had of of Microsoft .Net vs Java ?? Milan??

[Brummie]

Didn't say anything about it being easy... just didn't know choosing between Java and .NET was a binary option, or even if it was necessary to do either and prosper in that domain?

Certainly it appears to be a binary option in my experience when focusing on tech side of testing. Enterprise application development revolves around these two technologies.

Agents have a habit denying/ignoring the possibility that one can excel in multiple unrelated technologies. It's really funny that they treat you as a Specialist when there is absence of tech and treat you as a non-specialist when you have both/multiple.

It becomes a waste of time and effort when our CV cannot get past the agents as they look at your previous gig and few gigs before that when filtering.

[AV101]

Don't you think its going to be hard for a test management professional to learn both Java and C# in addition to learning Cucumber, Specflow etc?

Didn't say anything about it being easy... just didn't know choosing between Java and .NET was a binary option, or even if it was necessary to do either and prosper in that domain?

[SandyD]

Don't you think its going to be hard for a test management professional to learn both Java and C# in addition to learning Cucumber, Specflow etc?

[Brummie]

Uh!?!

Don't you think its going to be hard for a test management professional to learn both Java and C# in addition to learning Cucumber, Specflow etc?

[AV101]

If you are planning to focus on tech within testing, then you may need to decide whether its going to be Java or .NET. This is very important as you cannot do both.

Uh!?!

[Brummie]

Precisely. Learn the latest tech in that area. It's pretty advanced these days.

If you are planning to focus on tech within testing, then you may need to decide whether its going to be Java or .NET. This is very important as you cannot do both.

[Brummie]

If you do automated testing there are roles out there.

I do Automated testing (been doing it for many years) and am proficient with many technologies. Right from front-end (including Angular, React) to Middleware (MQ, REST/Soap Webservices) to Backend (relational DB and NoSQL), BDD/TDD, Core Java, Agile, Maven, Jenkins and bit of DevOps (Ansible) etc. Still, not many roles. I am now diversifying and hoping to provide automated testing as an added benefit.

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If you do automated testing there are roles out there.

Precisely. Learn the latest tech in that area. It's pretty advanced these days.

[SueEllen]

Yes, 'am into Test management - very common area!! and not that much highly skilled either...

Try to get PMP certification and move to project management is an option....may be..??

If you do automated testing there are roles out there.