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Originally posted by VillageContractor View PostI moved from a development background to be an Scrum Master then an Agile Coach. I did most of it while being perm.
I've worked with / interviewed a lot chancers who think they can be a BA/PM/SM. Unless you've actually done the role then you will probably underestimate what the role requires and what you have to do or you'll probably do it badly. Everyone thinks they can do someone else's job better.
If you're very good then yes you can do it - if you have an interest in doing a role then I would go back to being a perm and learn to do it properly in lots of companies.
I have seen people ask to have "multiple hats" on, and as the client is alway right it's just expanded from there
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostWent perm, got certified. Nuff said.
Certificates help but only in permie world to show that you've a semblance of ambition to your next prospective employer.
Anyway he used his soft skills from that to help get the perm product management job.
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Originally posted by VillageContractor View PostI've worked with / interviewed a lot chancers who think they can be a BA/PM/SM. Unless you've actually done the role then you will probably underestimate what the role requires and what you have to do or you'll probably do it badly. Everyone thinks they can do someone else's job better.
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I moved from a development background to be an Scrum Master then an Agile Coach. I did most of it while being perm.
I've worked with / interviewed a lot chancers who think they can be a BA/PM/SM. Unless you've actually done the role then you will probably underestimate what the role requires and what you have to do or you'll probably do it badly. Everyone thinks they can do someone else's job better.
If you're very good then yes you can do it - if you have an interest in doing a role then I would go back to being a perm and learn to do it properly in lots of companies.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe only dev I know who got into product management went perm. He did it for a lot of money though. He's also certified and acted as a scrum master.
Certificates help but only in permie world to show that you've a semblance of ambition to your next prospective employer.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe only dev I know who got into product management went perm. He did it for a lot of money though. He's also certified and acted as a scrum master.
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Originally posted by bubbles View PostThanks will also look into BA as it seems like many dev have done this although I'm more interested in product management....how to improve the product etc. but this seems like the most viable options.
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Originally posted by munkee View PostI moved from dev to ba to solution architecture. In all honesty the transitions were not hard due to the development environment I was in before. You had to do elements of these roles as we weren't a huge business to support a full change team.
I did BA training through bcs and spent 3 years applying that before moving into architecture. I feel having a dev background allows you to understand the finer details of requirements elicitation whilst also giving a business perspective around it.
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Thanks for the reply guys, I'm currently keeping an eye to see what comes up, either perm or contract whatever the rate might try it out and see. Just have to wait till this dev contract comes to an end and take it from there.
Originally posted by SueEllen View PostHow often are your referenced?
My biggest gripe about titles is that recruiters don't have an idea how it is out there in the field and just use titles and nothing else. They are a pain in the arse.
Does anyone else have their recruiters selling every one of their clients as UKs top leading company "blah blah" and turns out it's a tulipty little agency? They really get annoying sometimes....then they start selling the "I've got a list of jobs that I'll send over" yeah mate ok.
Just found out that this recruitment agency I was dealing with also has terrible reviews on google - senitor recruitment. Steer clear.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostMy references have never checked my last role titles.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostMy current client and my last client have lots of permie staff who have stepped sideways e.g. senior developer who is PM, testers to developers, testers to BA. They are a large company and a medium size company. It's cheaper and easier for them to get current staff skilled up then to find someone from outside who doesn't know the business.
Plenty of training courses available to keep staff happy without giving them too many payrises.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostHow often are your referenced?
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