Reply to: Increased notice period?

[MrMarkyMark]

<nluk>I hope you got a new contract with the new project on it, or you're stuffed for IR35</nluk>

I've had a client, in the past, where I signed a contract for three months.

After two months dot, I was told that they had "Run out of money and today will be your last day"
The agent was oblivious in this instance.

Luckily the MI head there, put me on another project with a new 3 month contract for the fraud area, which was quite frankly turned out to be one of the best to work in.

Yep, even though it was around 14 years or so ago now

[RonBW]

Luckily the MI head there, put me on another project with a new 3 month contract for the fraud area, which was quite frankly turned out to be one of the best to work in.

<nluk>I hope you got a new contract with the new project on it, or you're stuffed for IR35</nluk>

[LondonManc]

I was offered a long extension in lieu of a rate rise, although as we all know your contract is only ever as long as your notice period. Happy with that in uncertain times, but having to switch teams as the client doesn't want too many contractors working in the same area. It's an odd project this one.

Given some contractors have left, there's spare budget to be added to your day rate as part of this negotiation. AYCOTBAC?

[MrMarkyMark]

Even worse if there is an agent involved and the agent is committing further ahead than they've got commitment from the client. In that situation the longer extension is absolutely worthless. Agents must laugh their tits off when they pull this one.

I've had a client, in the past, where I signed a contract for three months.

After two months dot, I was told that they had "Run out of money and today will be your last day"
The agent was oblivious in this instance.

Luckily the MI head there, put me on another project with a new 3 month contract for the fraud area, which was quite frankly turned out to be one of the best to work in.

[northernladuk]

When, in reality, the contract will run as long as the budget is there to support it...

Even worse if there is an agent involved and the agent is committing further ahead than they've got commitment from the client. In that situation the longer extension is absolutely worthless. Agents must laugh their tits off when they pull this one.

[MrMarkyMark]

Happy with a long contract in lieu of a rate rise. That old cookie. I can't believe people think like that.

When, in reality, the contract will run as long as the budget is there to support it...

[northernladuk]

Yeah, you're probably right.

Happy with a long contract in lieu of a rate rise. That old cookie. I can't believe people think like that.

[westtester]

It's got some odd contractors on it as well it appears....

Yeah, you're probably right.

[northernladuk]

I was offered a long extension in lieu of a rate rise, although as we all know your contract is only ever as long as your notice period. Happy with that in uncertain times, but having to switch teams as the client doesn't want too many contractors working in the same area. It's an odd project this one.

It's got some odd contractors on it as well it appears....

[westtester]

I was offered a long extension in lieu of a rate rise, although as we all know your contract is only ever as long as your notice period. Happy with that in uncertain times, but having to switch teams as the client doesn't want too many contractors working in the same area. It's an odd project this one.

[VillageContractor]

If they don't want you to leave and are wanting to renegotiate your contract why not ask for some money for having a longer notice period?

[MrMarkyMark]

One thing I'd add after recent experiences. Think carefully abiout no notice. You might think "I'll never leave anyway" or "if worse comes to the worse client will let me go anyway"....

1) You never know what will happen in life with things such as family illnesses etc. If you've got a notice period, even if normally you'd never use it, makes things easier.

2) Don't rely on clients being "human". You may well get a client manager who won't care about your personal situation at all as long as his project is finished.

For me, I had all of these problems, trying to escape a gig when I gig close to home came up (which I needed to take because of family illness). Fortunately, the family thing was sorted (And the local gig fell through) but it did highlight a few issues.

Outstanding story Bro.

Totally irrelevant as he was talking about an increased notice period, not no notice.

[psychocandy]

One thing I'd add after recent experiences. Think carefully abiout no notice. You might think "I'll never leave anyway" or "if worse comes to the worse client will let me go anyway"....

1) You never know what will happen in life with things such as family illnesses etc. If you've got a notice period, even if normally you'd never use it, makes things easier.

2) Don't rely on clients being "human". You may well get a client manager who won't care about your personal situation at all as long as his project is finished.

For me, I had all of these problems, trying to escape a gig when I gig close to home came up (which I needed to take because of family illness). Fortunately, the family thing was sorted (And the local gig fell through) but it did highlight a few issues.

[MrMarkyMark]

Until now, the only mid-contract change I've ever had imposed was a rate cut. I've had notice period cuts at renewal time but never a midway increase. I'm not one for quitting halfway through a gig but I can understand why the client is concerned. This is one of those nightmare projects you wish you'd never got involved with.

Rate cuts are always on a take it or leave it basis, unless you can be made an exception.
It would slightly defeat the object if you fought against this and you then give notice anyway.

Anyway, as you stated you're not a quitter, so may be better to just suck it up

[westtester]

Until now, the only mid-contract change I've ever had imposed was a rate cut. I've had notice period cuts at renewal time but never a midway increase. I'm not one for quitting halfway through a gig but I can understand why the client is concerned. This is one of those nightmare projects you wish you'd never got involved with.