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Previously on "Ending a contract early"

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  • Jordan
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    Apologies for taking a while to respond, just want to say thank you for the feedback and ideas.

    Ultimately, I decided to stay with the current contract until it ends and actively look for new opportunities closer to then. To be clear: I was referred to the other contract I was interested in by a friend but didn't go beyond speaking to a recruiter to determine if it would have been a good match.

    (To save future readers time, I've edited my opening post to add links to some of the other threads I read while trying to reach a decision.)
    Last edited by Jordan; 13 January 2017, 12:23.

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  • waynek
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    Depending on your experience, skillset and SME knowledge you will likely find yourself in this position many times. There is no right or wrong answer - you simply need to weigh up the pros and cons and make a business decision.

    If you do decide to leave early - provided you manage it in a professional way and you maintain a high level of proficiency in your given field then I do not see why new contracts will be rejected across the board. When business / projects change direction or lose funding then the client will go through a decision process to potentially reduce head count and will not hesitate to trigger a release clause.

    Some questions to consider:
    - How long will you remain contracting for?
    - What future benefit will the existing / new contract bring to your business (beyond the invoice amount possible for the 6 months or so)
    - What will either role add to your marketability for future roles

    Once confirmed make the decision and move on and be up front and honest to all parties.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Yep. But never going to fly in practice.
    Flying might help if the M4 is knackered again. Ho hum.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
    So you offer them the sub, they refuse, contract broken, you walk, simples
    Not as simple as that I am afraid. We covered that option in another thread recently.

    Plus you've just shot a major pillar of your IR35 defense in the foot.

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Yep. But never going to fly in practice.
    So you offer them the sub, they refuse, contract broken, you walk, simples

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Do you have a substitution clause?
    Yep. But never going to fly in practice.

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  • amanwhoisquiet
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Nah cant see that working to be honest. New place is wanted me there on site asap.
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Erm, because you are being paid to do a full day by your current client and the old one will probably expect the same. Either way, not gonna fit in with either.
    I was on about the OP's thing rather than yours PC, and as the OP said the current gig is fully WFH and just marketing/maintenance then there might be some scope to do that staggered over a day/eve/wkend or some other arrangement. That's why I said if everything falls right. I'm sure this is absolutely being done from time to time by a non-zero amount of contractors. If the #1 contract does specify particular hours, then yes, you'd be just ripping them off by taking on another at the same time - although there must be people doing this as well.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Nah cant see that working to be honest. New place is wanted me there on site asap.
    Do you have a substitution clause?

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by amanwhoisquiet View Post
    If everything falls right, what's to stop you doing both at the same time for a couple of (busy) weeks? Answering some emails from gig#1 during the downtime/breaks in #2 then putting in the meat of the work for #1 when you get home?
    Erm, because you are being paid to do a full day by your current client and the old one will probably expect the same. Either way, not gonna fit in with either.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by amanwhoisquiet View Post
    If everything falls right, what's to stop you doing both at the same time for a couple of (busy) weeks? Answering some emails from gig#1 during the downtime/breaks in #2 then putting in the meat of the work for #1 when you get home?
    Nah cant see that working to be honest. New place is wanted me there on site asap.

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  • amanwhoisquiet
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    If everything falls right, what's to stop you doing both at the same time for a couple of (busy) weeks? Answering some emails from gig#1 during the downtime/breaks in #2 then putting in the meat of the work for #1 when you get home?

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  • psychocandy
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    Its a difficult one - Im in same situation at the moment.

    Due to family illness its becoming very difficult to keep doing my current gig - but no notice and it runs until end Feb. Out of the blue I got offered a local gig which would solve all my problems to be honest.

    So I've had a conversation with current client about letting me go early and explained why. I've been here over two years and was hoping they'd cut me a bit of slack. But nothing forthcoming yet.

    If I dont leave the new gig wont wait that long and I'll lose it. Then come end Feb I probably wont renew anyway and will be on my arse.

    Tough one. They say no - what to do then.

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
    Me too, came close a couple of times on renewals, but never left a contract until they no longer needed me.
    How is that a me too? Your post implies that you have always stayed put until no more renewals were forthcoming, which is pretty much the opposite of what I said.

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  • jmo21
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    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
    I've only terminated a contract early a couple of times because they were quite simply the wrong contract for me and I wanted out. I would normally see out any agreed initial term and simply not renew.
    Me too, came close a couple of times on renewals, but never left a contract until they no longer needed me.

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  • ladymuck
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    I've only terminated a contract early a couple of times because they were quite simply the wrong contract for me and I wanted out. I would normally see out any agreed initial term and simply not renew.

    To ditto some of the comments above: get the new gig first then negotiate a start date. If there's no budging on the start date, then negotiate an early exit. You say you have a weeks' notice so that could work out well enough.

    There's always something to learn in any contract; sometimes the lesson is just a little less obvious... And, of course, you're not supposed to be learning on the job - you're being hired because you know what to do.

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