Reply to: Advice:- I want to build a CMS / e-commerce site

[TheMonkey]

This often comes up here, and Opensourcecms is often recommended.
The glaring omission from http://www.opensourcecms.com/ is Plone and Zope which is solid, expandable and scalable:

http://www.zope.org/
http://plone.org/

With an immense learning curve and inability to run on 99.99% of shared hosting...

[NoddY]

This often comes up here, and Opensourcecms is often recommended.
The glaring omission from http://www.opensourcecms.com/ is Plone and Zope which is solid, expandable and scalable:

http://www.zope.org/
http://plone.org/

[Buffoon]

Can I ask for peoples options on Joomla / Mambo? I’ve used it on a couple of things, but they were not serious stuff that needed to be mega-secure or handled heavy loads. Worked for what we wanted. I am not advocating either, just curious on peoples thoughts.

[TheMonkey]

That's 900m over 3 years for 2 companies. Don't forget it's turnover, not profit!!!! Companies in question were well-known on-line computer retailer and a supermarket

[errorista]

Just to add some credentials, I was the tech arch on the team that built 2 of the top 10 by sales uk-based e-commerce sites in 2005. I shifted nearly £900m of sales through my code without a single security incident

Unfortunately your credibility is not increased by this post.

I of course believe every word, but I suspect many others will smell 900m tons of bs.

[TheMonkey]

post a link then

Ive got my credit card in my hand . . . and Im gagging to buy something

No because I wouldn't want to tie my reputation to my comments on here

[errorista]

Just to add some credentials, I was the tech arch on the team that built 2 of the top 10 by sales uk-based e-commerce sites in 2005. I shifted nearly £900m of sales through my code without a single security incident

post a link then

Ive got my credit card in my hand . . . and Im gagging to buy something

[TheMonkey]

I've had a decent experience with this - http://www.opencms.org/opencms/en/

You'll need a Java Servlet container available on your host, but it's not expensive to get one with Tomcat on.

Yeah that actually is reasonable! It's a proper cms!

[Cowboy Bob]

I've had a decent experience with this - http://www.opencms.org/opencms/en/

You'll need a Java Servlet container available on your host, but it's not expensive to get one with Tomcat on.

[TheMonkey]

Ok oscommerce:

- relies on register_globals
- two distinct directories of apis NOT shared between admin and live sites. Upgrade nightmare.
- no separation of presentation and data tier
- incredibly large page sizes
- sql dotted everywhere randomly
- performace is beyond abysmal (3secs to gen a page!!!???)
- code quality is scarily bad
- how big???
- customization nightmare - have to hack most stuff in.
- url schema is crap
- menu falls apart regularly
- really google unfriendly
- insecure storage of payment data
- someone hacked up zencart to make it better but it can gen 600!!! sql queries a hit!!!!
- circa 1996 html
- about as user friendly as something by B&O. They practise anti-hci!!!

I could go on but that's just to start with.

Btw, I know the phrase "it's open source - you can improve it" yadda yadda. I have done - I threw it away and built something better!

**** open sourcing it though - it doesn't pay the bills.

Just to add some credentials, I was the tech arch on the team that built 2 of the top 10 by sales uk-based e-commerce sites in 2005. I shifted nearly £900m of sales through my code without a single security incident

[Ardesco]

Found the other one:

http://www.babamd.co.uk/flashindex.html

[errorista]

Care to ellaborate monkey ?

I'm not aware of it being any more dangerous than any other e-commerce site

yep

and if there is something you dont like then fix it . . .then share it!

open source is a community

[Ardesco]

osCommerce is DANGEROUS. Do NOT use it.

Care to ellaborate monkey ?

I'm not aware of it being any more dangerous than any other e-commerce site

oh and here's a couple of URL's of people I have had do a couple of things for me in the past:

http://www.digitalvisionsdesign.com/ - American so cheap when you factor in the exchange rate, but needs a kick now and then to get it done.

http://www.media-d-zign.co.uk/ - She is quite good but hard to get hold of, try [email protected]

and I did have another one but can't find it now. If I do i'll pass it on

[errorista]

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Shows a large number of CMS's not just osCommerce.

I think the idea is to evaluate whats out there.

Im not recommending any specific application.

(Though I like e107 myself)

error

(Im sure there is lots of dangerous stuff in the list TBH)

[TheMonkey]

osCommerce is DANGEROUS. Do NOT use it.